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#186 of 271 Re: SUV [coolmazda5] by ateixeira Sep 14, 2007 (10:02 am)
Replying to: coolmazda5 (Sep 14, 2007 9:36 am) IKEA box fit compliant       Good one! They should use that in the brochure!   We also have 2 kids, but add a nanny and a dog in our case.   This weekend we're taking a trip with a family of 3, all coming along in our van for the ride. The nanny isn't coming, but it will be 7 people plus luggage, and one dog!
#187 of 271 RAV4 vs Santa FE vs CRV by gunga64 Sep 25, 2007 (5:36 am)
Like something from all 3 but have some doubts.   Santa FE 6 cylinder 2.7 GLS with auto 2007: When I went to two dealerships, noticed fit and trim problems with the Santa Fe as far as wiper blades that seem to already be rusting, deep scratches on the paint on new car, after market parts falling off. Twice on two different cars right in front of me. Really scares me that these issues are there though cosmetic they could lead me to believe there are mechanical issues that I should also be concerned with. Not sure I trust MPG that is stated on window, edmunds forum tends to agree. Two interior colors camel and light grey. Rather have darker interiors. Nice looking SUV on the outside. Large cargo and interior.   CRV: 4 cylinder 2008 Thought it was a bit smaller and noiser and slower then the other two. I seem to have issues with inline 4. Rather have the DOHC, Real time price was slightly higher then other two. Great colors for inside and out. Like it that it comes with a dark interior. But could always use more colors. MPG also goood, Honda MPG rating not as reliable as Toyotas.   RAV 4: 4 cylinder 2007 Not as noisey or slow as the CRV maybe due to DOHC. Limited interior colors but darker grey then the Santa FE. Gets pretty good MPG and I actually believe the window when it comes to that since I have had many toyotas with stated MPG being realistic. Prices tend to fluculate depending on what is available on the lot at the time.   Not sure there are any other SUV's I would be interested in. The Saturn hybrid VUE was interesting but I tend to think GM can't make decent engine/transmission/suspension/electrical. They even went as far as putting in a honda drivetrain at one point. The 2008 dont even have the plastic door panels which I think was a big mistake to get rid of.   Interior colors a big problem with me when they are too light. I want to keep these cars for many many years. If they get nasty looking it turns me off. Replies to this message: ateixeira (Sep 25, 2007 8:01 am) mpuzach (Sep 25, 2007 8:36 am)
#188 of 271 Re: RAV4 vs Santa FE vs CRV [gunga64] by ateixeira Sep 25, 2007 (8:01 am)
Replying to: gunga64 (Sep 25, 2007 5:36 am) The Vue now uses GM engines.   Try an Outlander and a Forester. Maybe a RAV4 V6 as well, given it only gets 1mpg less than the 4 banger in real-world tests.
#189 of 271 Re: RAV4 vs Santa FE vs CRV [gunga64] by mpuzach Sep 25, 2007 (8:36 am)
Replying to: gunga64 (Sep 25, 2007 5:36 am) The Santa Fe is also available with a black interior (though only in the Limited model). As for your concerns about "fit and trim problems", the items you mentioned reflect mishandling by the dealer, not a quality problem with the vehicle.   Have you driven any of these vehicles? If not, I suggest that you do.   I also suggest that you take a close look at the Hyundai Tucson. It comes with the same 2.7 liter V6 as the Santa Fe GLS and it's a FANTASTIC little SUV, especially in Limited trim. Check it out.
#190 of 271 Toyota may add a competitor... by ateixeira Oct 04, 2007 (11:47 am)
Looks like a 2-2-2 seating arrangement. The 3rd row is optional.   They'll have to change the name as I'm sure Ford would object.   http://youtube.com/watch?v=97bFi1Z7w7E Replies to this message: coolmazda5 (Oct 04, 2007 6:39 pm) ateixeira (Oct 05, 2007 6:44 am)
#191 of 271 Re: Toyota may add a competitor... [ateixeira] by coolmazda5 Oct 04, 2007 (6:39 pm)
Replying to: ateixeira (Oct 04, 2007 11:47 am) I like the design, More high-end than sporty IMO (i.e. the Mazda5) W/o the 3rd row it will be difficult to justify it as a family car/crossover/Mid Size Mambo Jumbo SUV category I guess (4 seater?). Is it confirmed for North America?   Mercedes R350 influence? That 3rd row seat is becoming so popular all 6-7 seaters interiors start looking alike   Some pics: http://www.toyota.jp/markxzio/ Replies to this message: ateixeira (Oct 05, 2007 6:44 am)
#192 of 271 Re: Toyota may add a competitor... [coolmazda5] by ateixeira Oct 05, 2007 (6:44 am)
Replying to: coolmazda5 (Oct 04, 2007 6:39 pm) At this point it's just a rumor.   The concept that previewed it was nice, but I think it came out looking a bit bland in the end. Toyota should take more risks.   Style it better and market it as a Scion.
#193 of 271 Re: Rondo vs Outlander/Rav4/Santa Fe/Mazda5 [dnatoday] by jessinpgh Oct 05, 2007 (7:59 pm)
Replying to: dnatoday (May 18, 2007 4:22 pm) Fellow Gearhead here. Road raced, wore a TR3, raced at Wilson's Glen (1 step down from Watkin's Glen), Jaguar, MG, Triumph. Motorcycles: Harley, Ducati, Honda. Okay, creds in. No minivan, suv, crossover or wagon is going to be fun to drive if you think 2 wheeled curves are juicy. Anything in the above category is too tall, too slow in the shift (it's an automatic, man!), too soft in the struts and just not meant for clenching your jaw and praying. Tell your husband from me, you can't double clutch a minivan, but you can keep your wife and kids safe and well transported. Get your husband some sort of used fun-to-drive-something and get the Rondo for your family. You'll never get both in one package. Replies to this message: ateixeira (Oct 10, 2007 7:37 am) coolmazda5 (Oct 10, 2007 9:27 am) ateixeira (Oct 10, 2007 9:29 am) and 5 more...
#194 of 271 Re: Rondo vs Outlander/Rav4/Santa Fe/Mazda5 [jessinpgh] by ateixeira Oct 10, 2007 (7:37 am)
Replying to: jessinpgh (Oct 05, 2007 7:59 pm) Sadly, I agree.   I searched and searched for a family hauler (7+ passengers) that was sporting and finally gave up and just got a minivan.   Even without a price limit, they just get too heavy, and still aren't sporty, no matter how much you spend. Replies to this message: coolmazda5 (Oct 10, 2007 9:27 am) ateixeira (Oct 10, 2007 9:29 am) coolmazda5 (Oct 10, 2007 10:15 am) and 4 more...
#195 of 271 Re: Rondo vs Outlander/Rav4/Santa Fe/Mazda5 [ateixeira] by coolmazda5 Oct 10, 2007 (9:27 am)
Replying to: ateixeira (Oct 10, 2007 7:37 am) Oh come on, you don't have to give up fun when the family grows. If for school buses works... why give up for a minivan or a van?   Replies to this message: ateixeira (Oct 10, 2007 9:29 am) coolmazda5 (Oct 10, 2007 10:15 am) taz16 (Oct 13, 2007 3:02 pm) and 3 more...

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