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What is this discussion about? Kia Rondo, Mitsubishi Outlander, Hyundai Santa Fe, Toyota RAV4, Mazda MAZDA5, Car Buying, Wagon


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Mazda5 and Rondo by kivo
Sep 07, 2007 (11:25 am)
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Does anyone know if either the Mazda5 or the Kia Rondo have stainless steel exhaust systems? My 92 Taurus has it and after 15 years of stop and go driving, I've never replaced anything. Great system!
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Re: Mazda5 and Rondo [kivo] by coolmazda5
Sep 07, 2007 (1:13 pm)
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Replying to: kivo (Sep 07, 2007 11:25 am)

This is what I gathered for the Mazda5. Yes, it seems that the exhaust is stainless steel (I don't have the actual car manual/specs around but this link has good info).
 
http://autos.nytimes.com/2007/NA/NA/263/3515/286107/researchSpecs.aspx
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Re: SUV [coolmazda5] by ateixeira
Sep 12, 2007 (7:23 am)
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Replying to: coolmazda5 (Sep 03, 2007 4:21 pm)

Dimensions are indeed close, but I bet the curb weight of the Vue is much higher.
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photos with people inside? by bobw3
Sep 12, 2007 (8:38 am)
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Does anyone know of any sites with photos of these cars with people sitting in all of the seats. This would provide a better reference to their interior size. Or do some owners have such photos?
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Re: photos with people inside? [bobw3] by ateixeira
Sep 12, 2007 (8:48 am)
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Replying to: bobw3 (Sep 12, 2007 8:38 am)

The manufacturers got smart - they use very petite models to make the cars seem roomier than they are!
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Re: SUV [ateixeira] by coolmazda5
Sep 12, 2007 (9:35 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Sep 12, 2007 7:23 am)

Yikes, yeah. www.saturn.com or any of the car web sites have this comparison tool thingie I believe...
 
VUE, Mazda5, Rondo, in that order:
Curb Weight Automatic (lbs): 3825 3389 3333
 
The rest (note my copy-n-paste disclaimer ):
Length (inches) 180.1 181.5 179.0
Width (inches) 72.8 69.1 71.7
Wheelbase (inches) 106.6 108.3 106.3
Height (inches) 67.0 64.2 65.0
Front Head Room (inches) 40.2 38.9 41.6
Rear Head Room (inches) 39.3 39.2 40.2
Front Leg Room (inches) 40.7 40.7 41.3
Rear Leg Room (inches) 36.9 35.2 38.2
Cargo Volume (Manufacturer) -cubic feet 29.2 44.4 31.7
 
Hmmm, I like that last Cargo Volume number
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Re: SUV [coolmazda5] by ateixeira
Sep 12, 2007 (9:40 am)
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Replying to: coolmazda5 (Sep 12, 2007 9:35 am)

Yeah, ~500 lbs or so. Part of that may be the AWD though.
 
Rondo seems to be the most space efficient, at least for passengers.
 
Mazda5 seems to fit the most gear.
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Re: photos with people inside? [ateixeira] by coolmazda5
Sep 12, 2007 (9:59 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Sep 12, 2007 8:48 am)

The manufacturers got smart - they use very petite models to make the cars seem roomier than they are!
 
True. My silly thought is that it also has to do with where the car is designed (i.e. Japan) even if they sell globally.
 
No offense to my fellow Japanese mates, but the average population height is lower over there than in many other parts of the World. My 2 Japanese designed cars have to have the driver's seat on its last position when I drive, and I'm not really that tall. I have also owned compact American designed cars, and there is plenty of legroom plus more seat positions to go back if needed (at least for the front seats)
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Re: photos with people inside? [coolmazda5] by ateixeira
Sep 12, 2007 (10:14 am)
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Replying to: coolmazda5 (Sep 12, 2007 9:59 am)

Even here, most models are size 0 or 2.
 
Show me a size 10, or better yet, an NFL linebacker!
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Re: SUV [ateixeira] by conwelpic
Sep 12, 2007 (2:32 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Sep 12, 2007 9:40 am)

Based on the Canadian manufacturers site:
 
The Vue weight of 3825 is with the 4 cyl and FWD and auto
The Mazda 5 with auto is 3415 lbs. The reviews I've read so far on the Vue all state its a very heavy vehicle, so how this would effect mileage is not clear as the mfg site does yet state mileage figures.
 
On storage:
Behind the front seats:
Vue - 54.3 cu.ft.
Rondo - 73.4 cu.ft.
Mazda 5 - 30.3 cu.ft. (believe it or not that's what the site says (they actually say it as metric - 857 litres), not sure how they measure it, but I have actually measured the length from the back door to the front seats in the rear position and its 5" shorter than the Rondo. So in all fairness its got to be close to double what they claim. Don't all manufacturers measure the same? It seems like Mazda is not giving themselves full credit in this area. The 44.4 on the US site does not state where they are measuring it, it just says cargo volume?)
 
Behind the 2nd seat:
Vue - 26.5 cu.ft. (752 litres)
Rondo - 31.7 cu.ft. (898 litres)
Mazda 5 - 15.1 cu.ft (426 litres)
 
behind the 3rd seat in the Mazda and Rondo is almost non-existent, but I don't think the VUE has a 3rd seat.

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