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Rondo vs Outlander/Rav4/Santa Fe/Mazda5

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What is this discussion about? Kia Rondo, Mitsubishi Outlander, Hyundai Santa Fe, Toyota RAV4, Mazda MAZDA5, Car Buying, Wagon


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Re: SUV [joe97] by coolmazda5
Aug 28, 2007 (7:12 am)
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Replying to: joe97 (Aug 28, 2007 5:25 am)

1) That Holden Captiva is a Daewoo
Daewoo? Don't they just manufacture appliances? Just kidding of course
  
2) I think Chevy GM is bringing the Commodore sometime to NA (a 4 door Pontiac GTO G8 type thing for us here) - fixed
OK, GM Family. As per the Chevy sibling, this is the one I'm referring to, the Chevy Lumina. And yes, it will be a G8 for Pontiac, but I just mentioned the defunct 2-door Pontiac GTO to give us an idea on what has been already sold here. Off-topic anyway

  
If you are going to list Sportage, then certainly Tuscon as well; and add CR-V to the list also
Agree... Now that I'm thinking of models, there are many more that look alike
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Re: SUV [joe97] by coolmazda5
Sep 03, 2007 (4:21 pm)
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Replying to: joe97 (Aug 28, 2007 5:25 am)

If you are going to list Sportage, then certainly Tuscon as well; and add CR-V to the list also
 
While driving during the weekend, I saw the new Saturn VUE (2008?) around and I just found out it is also the GM/Daewoo/Captiva type model. I think the comparison list will continue to grow to the minute... or least it gives us a better feeling on how those cars look over there
 
The new Saturn VUE:

 
The earlier posted Holden Captiva:

 
Aussie_9, if you are still around, the VUE length and width are similar to a Mazda5 or a Rondo plus Holden offers a 7 seater in Australia it seems (not in NA unfortunately) so check it out (if you haven't or you care, of course )
 

 
VUE, Mazda5 and Rondo dimensions (I got them somewhere on the Web, so double check), in that order:
 
Length (inches) 180.1 181.5 179.0
Width (inches) 72.8 69.1 71.7
Wheelbase (inches) 106.6 108.3 106.3
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Mazda5 and Rondo by kivo
Sep 07, 2007 (11:25 am)
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Does anyone know if either the Mazda5 or the Kia Rondo have stainless steel exhaust systems? My 92 Taurus has it and after 15 years of stop and go driving, I've never replaced anything. Great system!
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Re: Mazda5 and Rondo [kivo] by coolmazda5
Sep 07, 2007 (1:13 pm)
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Replying to: kivo (Sep 07, 2007 11:25 am)

This is what I gathered for the Mazda5. Yes, it seems that the exhaust is stainless steel (I don't have the actual car manual/specs around but this link has good info).
 
http://autos.nytimes.com/2007/NA/NA/263/3515/286107/researchSpecs.aspx
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Re: SUV [coolmazda5] by ateixeira
Sep 12, 2007 (7:23 am)
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Replying to: coolmazda5 (Sep 03, 2007 4:21 pm)

Dimensions are indeed close, but I bet the curb weight of the Vue is much higher.
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photos with people inside? by bobw3
Sep 12, 2007 (8:38 am)
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Does anyone know of any sites with photos of these cars with people sitting in all of the seats. This would provide a better reference to their interior size. Or do some owners have such photos?
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Re: photos with people inside? [bobw3] by ateixeira
Sep 12, 2007 (8:48 am)
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Replying to: bobw3 (Sep 12, 2007 8:38 am)

The manufacturers got smart - they use very petite models to make the cars seem roomier than they are!
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Re: SUV [ateixeira] by coolmazda5
Sep 12, 2007 (9:35 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Sep 12, 2007 7:23 am)

Yikes, yeah. www.saturn.com or any of the car web sites have this comparison tool thingie I believe...
 
VUE, Mazda5, Rondo, in that order:
Curb Weight Automatic (lbs): 3825 3389 3333
 
The rest (note my copy-n-paste disclaimer ):
Length (inches) 180.1 181.5 179.0
Width (inches) 72.8 69.1 71.7
Wheelbase (inches) 106.6 108.3 106.3
Height (inches) 67.0 64.2 65.0
Front Head Room (inches) 40.2 38.9 41.6
Rear Head Room (inches) 39.3 39.2 40.2
Front Leg Room (inches) 40.7 40.7 41.3
Rear Leg Room (inches) 36.9 35.2 38.2
Cargo Volume (Manufacturer) -cubic feet 29.2 44.4 31.7
 
Hmmm, I like that last Cargo Volume number
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Re: SUV [coolmazda5] by ateixeira
Sep 12, 2007 (9:40 am)
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Replying to: coolmazda5 (Sep 12, 2007 9:35 am)

Yeah, ~500 lbs or so. Part of that may be the AWD though.
 
Rondo seems to be the most space efficient, at least for passengers.
 
Mazda5 seems to fit the most gear.
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Re: photos with people inside? [ateixeira] by coolmazda5
Sep 12, 2007 (9:59 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Sep 12, 2007 8:48 am)

The manufacturers got smart - they use very petite models to make the cars seem roomier than they are!
 
True. My silly thought is that it also has to do with where the car is designed (i.e. Japan) even if they sell globally.
 
No offense to my fellow Japanese mates, but the average population height is lower over there than in many other parts of the World. My 2 Japanese designed cars have to have the driver's seat on its last position when I drive, and I'm not really that tall. I have also owned compact American designed cars, and there is plenty of legroom plus more seat positions to go back if needed (at least for the front seats)

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