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Rondo vs Outlander/Rav4/Santa Fe/Mazda5

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What is this discussion about? Kia Rondo, Mitsubishi Outlander, Hyundai Santa Fe, Toyota RAV4, Mazda MAZDA5, Car Buying, Wagon


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Re: RONDO AS "SUV" [aussie_9] by coolmazda5
Aug 27, 2007 (9:20 am)
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Replying to: aussie_9 (Aug 26, 2007 7:34 pm)

I don't like the Rondo model but the one you have edited in your photo makes it look interesting. It looks (somehow) like the Audi All-Road once sold here (see link). I also like the wheels (design and size).
 
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3f/Audi-Allroad.jpg/800px-- - Audi-Allroad.jpg
 
Now, IMO, it is closer to an AWD station wagon than the SUVs or CUVs you normally see in this side of the pond.
 
Holden or similar too boring for you I assume? I do believe they have some AWD (all-terrain) station wagons if I'm not mistaken.
 
(...and yeah, I kind of like those Holden Commodores and Ford Falcons, not to buy, but they seem fun...).
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SUV by aussie_9
Aug 27, 2007 (10:16 pm)
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Hi coolmazda I'm not into brute horsepower, which is what Holdens and Fords are about. No-one bought the Holden but the Ford [Territory] is popular.
 
Re the Audi: well spotted. I actually used the bottom 1/4 of the Audi's distant cousin Skoda Scout to attach to the Rondo's top 3/4. It's more of an SUV then than the Skoda, which is only 1533mm high. The Rondo would be about 1700mm high, more to the top of the roof bars.
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Re: SUV [aussie_9] by coolmazda5
Aug 28, 2007 (4:24 am)
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Replying to: aussie_9 (Aug 27, 2007 10:16 pm)

Skoda Scout, so those Czech VW siblings are Down-Under as well, huh?
 
As per Holden, this is what I was thinking of (looks like an all-terrain Opel Astra [Holden sibling]):

 
I think Chevy is bringing the Commodore sometime to NA (a 4 door Pontiac GTO type thing for us here). Big and brute horsepowered sedans are a hit over here
 
Oh well, but to keep us on topic, I believe the "closest" SUVs I'm thinking of from this side of the pond are:
- Kia Sportage (2 seat rows only though)
- Hyundai Santa-Fe (3 seat rows?)
- Hyundai Veracruz (3 seat rows)
- Mazda Cx-7
- RAV4 and Outlander of course.
 
And yes, I hope KIA/Mazda/Hyundai/Toyota/Mitsubishi are reading these forums. Good ideas for all the different markets I believe...
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Re: SUV [coolmazda5] by joe97
Aug 28, 2007 (5:25 am)
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Replying to: coolmazda5 (Aug 28, 2007 4:24 am)

1) That Holden Captiva is a Daewoo
 
2) I think Chevy GM is bringing the Commodore sometime to NA (a 4 door Pontiac GTO G8 type thing for us here) - fixed
 
3) Hyundai Santa-Fe (3 seat rows?) yes, optional third row
 
4) Hyundai Veracruz is way out of league for this. This is not even close to the VC.
 
If you are going to list Sportage, then certainly Tuscon as well; and add CR-V to the list also
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Re: SUV [joe97] by coolmazda5
Aug 28, 2007 (7:12 am)
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Replying to: joe97 (Aug 28, 2007 5:25 am)

1) That Holden Captiva is a Daewoo
Daewoo? Don't they just manufacture appliances? Just kidding of course
  
2) I think Chevy GM is bringing the Commodore sometime to NA (a 4 door Pontiac GTO G8 type thing for us here) - fixed
OK, GM Family. As per the Chevy sibling, this is the one I'm referring to, the Chevy Lumina. And yes, it will be a G8 for Pontiac, but I just mentioned the defunct 2-door Pontiac GTO to give us an idea on what has been already sold here. Off-topic anyway

  
If you are going to list Sportage, then certainly Tuscon as well; and add CR-V to the list also
Agree... Now that I'm thinking of models, there are many more that look alike
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Re: SUV [joe97] by coolmazda5
Sep 03, 2007 (4:21 pm)
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Replying to: joe97 (Aug 28, 2007 5:25 am)

If you are going to list Sportage, then certainly Tuscon as well; and add CR-V to the list also
 
While driving during the weekend, I saw the new Saturn VUE (2008?) around and I just found out it is also the GM/Daewoo/Captiva type model. I think the comparison list will continue to grow to the minute... or least it gives us a better feeling on how those cars look over there
 
The new Saturn VUE:

 
The earlier posted Holden Captiva:

 
Aussie_9, if you are still around, the VUE length and width are similar to a Mazda5 or a Rondo plus Holden offers a 7 seater in Australia it seems (not in NA unfortunately) so check it out (if you haven't or you care, of course )
 

 
VUE, Mazda5 and Rondo dimensions (I got them somewhere on the Web, so double check), in that order:
 
Length (inches) 180.1 181.5 179.0
Width (inches) 72.8 69.1 71.7
Wheelbase (inches) 106.6 108.3 106.3
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Mazda5 and Rondo by kivo
Sep 07, 2007 (11:25 am)
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Does anyone know if either the Mazda5 or the Kia Rondo have stainless steel exhaust systems? My 92 Taurus has it and after 15 years of stop and go driving, I've never replaced anything. Great system!
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Re: Mazda5 and Rondo [kivo] by coolmazda5
Sep 07, 2007 (1:13 pm)
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Replying to: kivo (Sep 07, 2007 11:25 am)

This is what I gathered for the Mazda5. Yes, it seems that the exhaust is stainless steel (I don't have the actual car manual/specs around but this link has good info).
 
http://autos.nytimes.com/2007/NA/NA/263/3515/286107/researchSpecs.aspx
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Re: SUV [coolmazda5] by ateixeira
Sep 12, 2007 (7:23 am)
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Replying to: coolmazda5 (Sep 03, 2007 4:21 pm)

Dimensions are indeed close, but I bet the curb weight of the Vue is much higher.
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photos with people inside? by bobw3
Sep 12, 2007 (8:38 am)
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Does anyone know of any sites with photos of these cars with people sitting in all of the seats. This would provide a better reference to their interior size. Or do some owners have such photos?

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