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Wagons Kia Rondo Rondo vs Outlander/Rav4/Santa Fe/Mazda5
271 messages, Last post on Jul 30, 2008 at 12:09 PM
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Replying to: medicineman (May 18, 2007 5:27 pm) Of course, it turns out that these are conflicting goals: the third-row seat is generally accommodated in part by reducing the space available in the second row. Within the price range, the Rondo was absolutely the winner. When we checked out the Mazda, I had to perform some very complex contortions just to get into the third-row seat, and at 5'7" it was definitely not a tolerable fit. I found the Rondo's third row the easiest to get into and out of, and the fit is "adequate" so that I'd be willing to sit there (which may be necessary to keep peace if we haul 4 or 5 of our child's friends). We bought a Kia Rondo yesterday (with nearly every available option), and of course we're quite happy after the first 40 miles, but naturally there's a lot for us to learn and experience before I can offer a real review. As I noted in the 'accessories' thread, I do wish I could find a suitable cargo-area cover.
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Replying to: markwelchca (Aug 24, 2007 3:26 pm)
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Replying to: rcpax (Aug 24, 2007 11:08 pm) We did NOT consider the Outlander; we did not know it existed; we did not even know (until I just searched) that there is a Mitsubishi dealership 3.3 miles from our home (I assume that it's hidden inside one of the other dealerships). If we had known that the Outlander existed, we probably wouldn't have checked it out because in the past when I've researched cars, the Mitsubishi models were MUCH more expensive than most comparable vehicles. That doesn't seem to be true, if the pricing on Edmunds is correct. From a quick look on Edmunds, it appears that the Outlander has comparable MPG and a list price that's about $4,000 to $5,000 more than a comparable Rondo (I also assume that Mitsubishis aren't discounted as much as Kias). In a quick search now, I can't figure out what features might be included in which versions of the Outlander. From the context here, I assume that it has a third-row seat; I also see that it's marketed as an SUV, while our search was for a "station wagon." Pricing seems to be a few thousand higher than the Rondo.
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Replying to: markwelchca (Aug 25, 2007 11:59 am) |
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Hi new here This fits into the category of "if they made it, I would buy it". We've been looking at small SUVs. We really don't need a 4WD, but there are few other cars in our country [Australia] which meet our needs: we need load space, my wife likes an elevated driving position and a feeling of security. So we have looked at cars like the CRV and the Outlander. Kia has not yet released the Rondo [prob'y to be called the Carena here] yet, but will soon we think. However, I reckon they could really shake up the SUV 'city" car market by using the same strategy as various other companies have: Eg Renault, Fiat, Skoda, VW. That is, increase the ground clearance by about 50mm, and use lots of black plastic, then work on the suspension and handling to cope with the increased height. Here's an indication of what you might get (I've used the lines to cover up my poor photo editing) SUV_Rondo
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Replying to: aussie_9 (Aug 26, 2007 7:34 pm) http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3f/Audi-Allroad.jpg/800px-- - Audi-Allroad.jpg Now, IMO, it is closer to an AWD station wagon than the SUVs or CUVs you normally see in this side of the pond. Holden or similar too boring for you I assume? I do believe they have some AWD (all-terrain) station wagons if I'm not mistaken. (...and yeah, I kind of like those Holden Commodores and Ford Falcons, not to buy, but they seem fun...). |
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Hi coolmazda I'm not into brute horsepower, which is what Holdens and Fords are about. No-one bought the Holden but the Ford [Territory] is popular. Re the Audi: well spotted. I actually used the bottom 1/4 of the Audi's distant cousin Skoda Scout to attach to the Rondo's top 3/4. It's more of an SUV then than the Skoda, which is only 1533mm high. The Rondo would be about 1700mm high, more to the top of the roof bars.
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Replying to: aussie_9 (Aug 27, 2007 10:16 pm)  As per Holden, this is what I was thinking of (looks like an all-terrain Opel Astra [Holden sibling]):  I think Chevy is bringing the Commodore sometime to NA (a 4 door Pontiac GTO type thing for us here). Big and brute horsepowered sedans are a hit over here  Oh well, but to keep us on topic, I believe the "closest" SUVs I'm thinking of from this side of the pond are: - Kia Sportage (2 seat rows only though) - Hyundai Santa-Fe (3 seat rows?) - Hyundai Veracruz (3 seat rows) - Mazda Cx-7 - RAV4 and Outlander of course. And yes, I hope KIA/Mazda/Hyundai/Toyota/Mitsubishi are reading these forums. Good ideas for all the different markets I believe...
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Replying to: coolmazda5 (Aug 28, 2007 4:24 am) 2) I think 3) Hyundai Santa-Fe (3 seat rows?) yes, optional third row 4) Hyundai Veracruz is way out of league for this. This is not even close to the VC. If you are going to list Sportage, then certainly Tuscon as well; and add CR-V to the list also
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