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What is this discussion about? Kia Rondo, Mitsubishi Outlander, Hyundai Santa Fe, Toyota RAV4, Mazda MAZDA5, Car Buying, Wagon

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#141 of 271 Re: Mazda5 over Kia Rondo [medicineman] by coolmazda5

Aug 05, 2007 (7:50 am)

Replying to: medicineman (Aug 04, 2007 11:48 am)
Are you sure your nickname is not philosophyman or psychologyman? I already had to take those type of classes for my M. Sc. so no more, thanks
 
For the sake of the thread topic and focus, Can I suggest to be as factual as possible (yes, it goes for me as well)?
 
Outlander: Cool design, but SUV focus
Rav4: OK, but SUV focus
Santa Fe: No, I don't like the design nor the SUV focus
 
Rondo:
- Functionality, Versatility: Yes
- Space: Yes
- Initial Quality: Yes
- Brand recognition: No
- V6 available: Yes
- Manual Transmission option: No
- Aux sound: Yes
- Rear A/C vents: Yes
- Seats 7
- Interior Design: No
- Interior Quality of Materials: OK for the price
- Exterior Design and Attractive looks: No
- Sliding door: No
- Handling: No
 
Mazda5:
- Functionality, Versatility: Yes
- Space: Yes
- Initial Quality: Yes, after the 2007 model
- Brand recognition: Yes
- V6 available: No
- Manual Transmission option: Yes
- Aux sound: upcoming 2008 model
- Rear A/C vents: upcoming 2008 model
- Seats 6. No 7th seat option
- Interior Design: Yes
- Interior Quality of Materials: OK for the price
- Exterior Design and Attractive looks: Yes
- Sliding door: Yes
- Handling: Yes

#143 of 271 Kia Rondo Aux In? by dnatoday

Aug 05, 2007 (9:37 am)

Replying to: coolmazda5 (Aug 05, 2007 7:50 am)
Hey Medicine Man! You state that the Rondo has an Aux in? Where? Is that in the factory installed car? I have the EX6V.
Thanks,
dna

#145 of 271 Re: Mazda5 over Kia Rondo [coolmazda5] by medicineman

Aug 05, 2007 (10:35 am)

Replying to: coolmazda5 (Aug 05, 2007 7:50 am)
coolmazda5 wrote:
Are you sure your nickname is not philosophyman or psychologyman? I already had to take those type of classes for my M. Sc. so no more, thanks
 
Actually, I took philosophy classes as easy electives, but I didn't major in the soft sciences (I've had a very eclectic past, though--truck driver, anyone?).
 
But yes, let us return to the facts and at least pretend to be fair and balanced, shall we? (You can never be accused of being a boor by slapping on a winky, eh? )

#146 of 271 Re: Kia Rondo Aux In? [dnatoday] by medicineman

Aug 05, 2007 (10:36 am)

Replying to: dnatoday (Aug 05, 2007 9:37 am)
Dnatoday, contrary to Coolmazda5's list of facts/opinions, the 2007 Rondo doesn't have an Aux input, but there are rumblings that the 2008 Rondo will have one. At least one review mentioned it, at Jalopnik (look in part 2--a very oddball kind of review, so check it out, everyone). Plus, someone in this thread at another forum stated that a salesman mentioned it.

#147 of 271 Re: Mazda5 over Kia Rondo [coolmazda5] by medicineman

Aug 06, 2007 (4:04 am)

Replying to: coolmazda5 (Aug 05, 2007 7:50 am)
Here's my variation of Coolmazda5's list. I've added some categories because they're important to me--btw, it's purely by accident that the Rondo seems to do better in some of the categories that I picked (really, just by accident, and I didn't cherry pick, either ). Some of my list is factual; some of it is my personal opinion based on my own experience and/or what I've read. I didn't cover the Outlander, Rav4 and Santa Fe because, well, what's the point? You guys know what's going on.
 
I obviously know the Rondo better than the Mazda5, so what do I know? Take it for what it's worth--and if I screw up any factual information, just add that to my life's collection.
 
Rondo:
- Functionality, Versatility: excellent
- Space: very good
- Initial Quality: Not enough data yet
- Brand recognition: Same ballpark as domestics
- V6 available: Yes
- Manual Transmission option: No
- 5-speed Automatic Transmission: yes in V6
- Engine (I-4/V6):
  Size 2.4L/2.7L
  Horsepower 162/182
  Horsepower rpm 5,800/6,000
  Torque 164/182
  Torque rpm 4,250/4,000
- Passing power: weak with large load
- Aux sound: 2008?
- Rear A/C vents: Yes
- Seating: 5 or 7
- Interior Design: Average
- Interior Quality of Materials: Average
- Exterior Design and Attractive looks: Looks like a duck's head
- Sliding door: No
- Third row accessibility: easy
- Telescopic steering column: no
- Handling: Good for a people hauler
- Electronic Stability Control: yes
- Traction Control System: yes
- Standard Warranty:
  5-year/60,000-mile basic
  10-year/100,000-mile powertrain
  5-year/100,000-mile anti-perforation
  5-year/60,000-mile roadside assistance
 
Mazda5:
- Functionality, Versatility: excellent
- Space: very good
- Initial Quality: very good
- Brand recognition: Second-tier Japanese
- V6 available: No
- Manual Transmission option: Yes
- 5-speed Automatic Transmission: 2008
- Engine (I-4):
  Size 2.3L
  Horsepower 153
  Horsepower rpm 6,500
  Torque 148
  Torque rpm 4,500
- Passing power: weak with large load
- Aux sound: 2008
- Rear A/C vents: 2008
- Seating: 6
- Interior Design: Above average
- Interior Quality of Materials: Average
- Exterior Design and Attractive looks: Looks like a minivan
- Sliding door: Yes
- Third row accessibility: easy
- Telescopic steering column: yes
- Handling: Great for a people hauler
- Electronic Stability Control: no
- Traction Control System: no
- Standard Warranty:
  3-year/36,000-mile basic
  5-year/60,000-mile powertrain
  5-year/unlimited-miles anti-perforation
  3-year/36,000-mile roadside assistance

#148 of 271 Thanks for the info by dnatoday

Aug 06, 2007 (6:06 am)

I didn't think there was an AUX in, but I wasn't sure if I missed something in the car-- I *am* only a girl after all.
 
We actually put in an aftermarket navigation/video system-- it plays mp3 CDs (as does the factory audio system) so I am really not too worried, butit would have been nice to be able to plug in my new video ipod.
 
I did get a ding the other day-- a guy with a boat trailer was passing my parked Rondo, his fender flew off and hit the passenger door and the window-- leaving a 4 inch shallow dent & scrap on the former and a longer scratch on the window. I was totally upset for a while about damage to my first and only new car, but then I thought that if the car was parked in the driveway and not on the street, chances are the fender would have flown into the yard and hit one of the kids playing there, so in hindsight, it could have been worse.
 
Anyway, I took it to the insurance accessor and the Rondo wasn't in is database, so he "used something similar" to do the estimate and came up with $583 for the repair. Ouch, but it isn't on my insurance. So I took it to the dealer for repairs, and they did a re-estimate of the damages. I hope you are sitting down. The dealer priced the repair for a couple of scratches and a small dent to be OVER A THOUSAND (US) dollars. Double ouch!
 
It's amazing what these small accidents can set you back for!
 
Dna

#149 of 271 Brand recognition by joe97

Aug 06, 2007 (6:32 am)

Despite the popularity of the MX-5 and Mazda3, many would be surprised to find out how little brand recongition Mazda has in the US market (i.e. Mazda's own research has shown less name recognition than the Kia brand). The new crossovers from Mazda should help to improve such, however.

#150 of 271 Re: Mazda5 over Kia Rondo [medicineman] by coolmazda5

Aug 06, 2007 (7:48 am)

Replying to: medicineman (Aug 06, 2007 4:04 am)
Whooa, what a detail
 
Thanks medicineman for the detailed list plus for correcting the aux sound assessment from my earlier post
 
Now, this should be on the Mazda5-Rondo thread, isn't it? Moderator, any ideas?
 
coolmazda5 is a troublemaker anyway...

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