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Replying to: poncho167 (Feb 03, 2008 5:50 am) Like you, I don't have a lot of trust in Consumer's Reports, as I have always felt that they had their own agenda. As an example, a couple of years ago I purchased a plasma TV with the cablecard option, eliminating the need for a cable box receiver (an option touted as a "plus" by CU). After having difficulty getting it to work, I did quite a bit of research on the net, finding rampant problems with cablecards. When I contacted CU to get their take on it, they had no idea of any problems with this option. That spoke volumes to me...either they were being untruthful, or their "extensive" testing wasn't that extensive after all. And, yes, for years I tried to buy American when it came to big ticket items. But, like I said earlier, after having several friends driving imports and not having the issues that I had, it opened my eyes. And, while I am certainly no fan of the UAW, you can't lay all the blame on them. I have heard stories from family/friends that were union members that would make your blood boil, and I can remember being at trade shows in places like Chicago and not being able to plug in an electric cord, as that was a "UNION" responsibility. ..as if I wasn't capable of doing the task myself. However, the manufacturing sector has also made its contributions. For example, a recent article in USA Today spoke about GM's icon (On-Star) will stop working in many GM products made as recently as some 2005 models, due to the wireless networks discontinuing analog cell service in the near future. I don't know about you, but I have had digital service since the late 1990's. This was a concious decision by GM to save a few pennies at the customer's expense. They are not alone in penny pinching...How about Ford and the brake lite sending unit/cruise control related fires? For years, Ford knew that having constant power to the sending unit could cause a fire if there was hydraulic fluid leakage. Also, remember the Pinto gas tank issue, or the GM truck gas tank issue in the 80's and early 90's. And, the biggest screwing of all? GM's attempt to convert a gasoline engine design to a cheap diesel during the oil embargo of the early 70's, even though they had the intelligence and manpower to supply a reliable engine. We are still suffering from this ill-fated travesty, and to this day have difficulty finding a diesel powered American automobile. Believe me, there is enough blame to go around in Detroit for all to share. Last of all, exactly what is American today, when you give it some thought....??? My new Nissan was make in Canton, Mississippi. My BMW Z4 coupe was make in Spartanburg, SC. My Aveo was made in Korea. All are serviced and sold by local dealers, who are primarily American citizens (I assume they are, anyway)...Just about any electronic device made today comes from China, regardless if it has HP, Apple or Motorola on the label. Arrogance, by both the UAW and the manufacturers got the American auto sector into the fix it finds itself today. Yes, I also remember the early days of Japanese imports. The Honda Civic was more like a go-cart. The early small truck imports had single wall truck beds, and it was rare to see one that didn't have dents due to cargo shifting around in the bed. But that was 40 years ago, and in my opinion, GM still hasn't "gotten" it. Until the management of GM starts thinking in a more consumer oriented way, and actually accepts that the imports are "true"competition, I fear that GM will continue to loose market share. Funny thing, though...as Toyota closes in on GM, it appears that they are incorporating some of GM's philosophy, which I expect will start showing up in their build quality...time will tell.... Ford appears to be making an attempt at becoming more adept, and Chrysler has gone private, with the ex-head of Home Depot at the helm (what were they thinking???). SUV and light truck sales have kept Detroit going over the last few years. I wonder what will happen in the next 10, 20 years????
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Replying to: busiris (Feb 03, 2008 12:52 pm) I agreed with the Japanese prime minister some 15-20 years ago when he toured the auto plants and said the UAW workers were lazy. It was about time someone said something to get them to wake up and realize it is not fun and games anymore. I know what you mean by a union contractors having to plug a cord in and how much they overcharge for their services. A friends neighbor is a union window installer and he makes six figures doing that. I can also see why Toyota goes out-of-their-way to avoid states that have unions and to seek part-time employees to save on benefits. That may morally wrong, but it is a smart business decision no matter how bad it appears. American manufactures have been forced to seek parts from China, Japan, and Mexico because everyone else is doing it to stay competitive price wise. Have you seen the domestic content of a Camry recently, I haven't but read in an article that it has dipped below 60%. Toyota as a whole including their other devisions brings their domestic content to below 60% as well while GM is still floating at 75% overall but who knows how long that will last.
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Replying to: poncho167 (Feb 04, 2008 5:38 am) Well, why should they? Try to get a smaller car with lots of options on it and see what you find. Try to find electric seats or a nav system on a small domestic auto. For years, the domestic producers intentionally made smaller cars sub-standard to encourage big car sales. Henry Ford II famously said that "Small cars mean small profits.". The industry says there isn't a demand for diesel...Right...Go to your nearest VW dealer and ask him how happy he is that VW delayed the sale of diesel Jettas until the 09 model year, to be released this fall. I recently read on Edmunds that one VW dealer says over 33% of new car buying prospects at his dealership come there looking for diesel power. Will the domestics finally catch on? I am not optimistic. In the case of potentially unemployed auto workers, I really hope I am wrong. I guess we'll see....
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Replying to: busiris (Feb 04, 2008 3:01 pm) Sure they generally get better mileage than a comparative gas engine (except for the Mercedes sourced antique low-tech Jeep diesel engines) but they cost more and the price of diesel is now higher as well. How long will it take in fuel savings to pay off the higher price of the diesel equipt car? The diesel fuel thing the last time I looked was 70 cents more per gallon. When there is more demand for diesel the diesel fuel will go higher and higher because that is the American way sad to say. I believe this whole thing especially the recent surge in diesel fuel is all politically motivated and someone is getting money under the table.
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Replying to: bayoubilly74 (Feb 01, 2008 6:55 pm)
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Replying to: poncho167 (Feb 05, 2008 6:26 am) My daughter is looking at a new Toyota, and I have seen several comments from you in these feeds that Toyota attempts to convince owners that a lot of problems are "normal service items" instead of actual failures/problems. She has a Corolla now, and has had good luck, with no trips for anything other than normal service on her current car (ie, oil changes,etc). Is there a publication (or web-sites, etc.) that I can get more detailed info on this phenomenon? Thanks...
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Replying to: busiris (Feb 24, 2008 5:18 pm)
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Replying to: poncho167 (Feb 25, 2008 5:00 am) http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2007/01/toyota_sludge_settlement.html |
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has anyone had any eninge problems with the aveo hatchback. i have a 2008 aveo hatchback with 8,000 miles on it and it has ablown motor in it . i bought the car iin november of 07. the thermostat stuck when the car just had 3,200 miles on it and it over heated. then in january the fans quit working for the radiator and it over heated again. then when it had 4,00 miles on it the speedometer went on it . then in march it over heated again and the dealership did a pressure tes on the coolant system and they told me that there was a puncher clear through the radiator and it was not coverd by my warrenty. they told me that it would cost me over $450 to fix it so i told them to top it off with cooland andi drove it home which is only 10 minuts from the dealership. it did not overheat or anythiing . when i got home i pulled the radiator out and sodered it to fix the hole and drove it for 2 days . on the third day i went to get in in and it would not start in took over 2 hour until it finaly started . i drove it to the dealership and they said they would look at it. they have had the car for a month and told me that it is not coverd by my warrenty and it only has 8,000 miles on it. i went to the lemon law and they told me that i did not have a case . any suggestions on whats i should do. i have a $15,000 dolar loan out on it and i cant drive but have to pay for it .
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Replying to: timnemeth12 (Apr 04, 2008 10:01 am)
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