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#105 of 300 Re: 2009 chevy aveo hatchback [kirstie_h]
May 30, 2012 (7:25 pm)
"Spark plugs aren't an integral part of the vehicle and aren't related to build quality."
Oh, really? If they are not "an integral part", try driving any vehicle without spark plugs...
Actually Chevy now realizes that the plugs and coil packs are prone to failure, which is what the recall addresses. The problem is more than just "wear and tear" - otherwise there would be no recall of it.
"While you have the car there, it's worth having it checked out for other issues."
If it's covered under warranty with no cost to you, that's a good idea. Other than that, don't let the stealership sell you anything that's not covered. In other words, don't be a chump and be told that it's your problem rather than theirs.
#106 of 300 Re: 2009 chevy aveo hatchback [barkydog]
by kirstie_h HOST
May 31, 2012 (8:08 am)
Oh good grief. Yes, they are integral part of making the vehicle run... obviously. So is the battery, which I also mentioned. They are small, potentially defective parts that have NO effect on other components. Get them replaced, and if that's the only issue, it's solved. It isn't indicative of an overall design flaw or build quality issue. It's one defective part that's easy to replace - we replace spark plugs on our motorcycles and lawn mower just about every year.
And example of design flaw/build quality issues can be found in, say, the several makes/models that have a flawed design in the ABS module that may cause the vehicle to catch fire. THAT is a big issue.
I believe the original poster said that he/she is under a 30-day return option. That's a good reason to get the vehicle checked out in case there are other issues that may warrant being concerned about the vehicle's build quality.
#107 of 300 Re: 2009 chevy aveo hatchback [kirstie_h]
May 31, 2012 (8:08 pm)
"Oh good grief."
Yes, grief indeed. When your car dies suddenly, that can cause “grief”.
"Yes, they are integral part of making the vehicle run... obviously."
In your previous post you said they weren’t – which is why I took issue with it.
"So is the battery, which I also mentioned. They are small, potentially defective parts that have NO effect on other components."
NO. And here’s what you fail to recognize: The life of a battery is time related. All batteries will fail over a period of approximately 3 years or so, due to the nature of their life as a chemically viable part. Spark plugs and coil packs are NOT prone to time related decay and failure. If they fail prematurely, that is due to improper design or application: in other words the failure is from design flaws or bad engineering.
"Get them replaced, and if that's the only issue, it's solved. It isn't indicative of an overall design flaw or build quality issue."
It definitely IS a design flaw affecting both the coil and the spark plugs, which are now being replaced with those of a different design. IF THIS WEREN’T A DESIGN FLAW, WHY IS THERE NOW A RECALL FOR IT?
"It's one defective part that's easy to replace - we replace spark plugs on our motorcycles and lawn mower just about every year."
Do you drive your lawnmower 25 thousand miles a year? Or are you replacing spark plugs just for the fun of doing so? Why are you acting as an apologist for Chevrolet? Are you ignorant of engine technology, or are you on GM’s payroll?
"And example of design flaw/build quality issues can be found in, say, the several makes/models that have a flawed design in the ABS module that may cause the vehicle to catch fire. THAT is a big issue."
And when a coil pack fails, you contend that that’s not a "big issue"? So to you only things that cause a vehicle to catch fire are “big issues”?
"I believe the original poster said that he/she is under a 30-day return option. That's a good reason to get the vehicle checked out in case there are other issues that may warrant being concerned about the vehicle's build quality."
Yes, I agree: we Aveo owners should hold GM responsible for the engineering flaw and insist on having this recall work done. If this weren’t an issue (one that has left owners stranded when their car suddenly dies) there wouldn’t be any recall, would there?
#108 of 300 Re: 2009 chevy aveo hatchback [barkydog]
by kirstie_h HOST
Jun 01, 2012 (6:27 am)
Well, we've both stated our opinions, and the original poster and others can decide for themselves whether the need to replace faulty spark plugs means that the entire vehicle is likely to be a giant heap of garbage, or whether they should replace the spark plugs under warranty and move on.
Our lawnmower is a riding lawnmower that does heavy-duty work. It gets very dirty. Spark plugs could be cleaned, but for the price and ease of replacement, we usually just replace.
I've been driving for nearly 30 years, and I've owned exactly one GM product - a Chevette that I purchased in 1989 for $300. I could hardly be accused of being a GM fangirl.
Jun 16, 2012 (8:29 am)
Well, I never heard back from Sara at GM Customer Service about my code P0304, so I bought some new plugs for my 2009 Aveo5. The plug that had been in cylinder #4 had a hairline fracture in the ceramic. I've only seen something like this once before, but it is easy to detect as it left a black flair at the crack. I gapped the new plugs at the standard .44, installed them and put the coil-over back in place. The car runs like new (39-40 MPG to and from work). The next day I got my notice from GM of a "voluntary recall." At a minimum, it includes new improved rubber boots on the coil-over, and a different range spark plug with a smaller gap. I'm assuming the new GM part is a colder range plug, and I'm amazed that they have a considerably smaller gap (to run cooler? to put less stress on the coils?). I will probably put my old plugs back in, get the code, and take it to my dealer for the recall so I get the redesigned, re-engineered parts. I noticed two additional things 1. the Aveo plugs now get changed every 25,000 miles, and 2. the cam belt gets changed at 100,000 (this belt used to cause all kinds of motor damage and was to be changed at 60,000 miles - so this has been improved also). Loving my little Chevys (I have a 2005 hatchback also).
#110 of 300 Re: Chevy Aveo Engine problem [jonesrow]
Sep 10, 2012 (7:26 pm)
My wife is having the same problem of the car accelerating on its own after having her timing belt replaced. It does not do it all the time and the dealership can't seem to figure out what the problem is. We have taken it back four times. It works for a couple days then all of a sudden we will be at a stop and it will rev as if it is trying to go forward. It also sometimes does it when we put it in park. Then its fine for a few days then it does it again.
#112 of 300 Re: Chevy Aveo Engine problem [migrodri]
Sep 12, 2012 (9:02 am)
We're sorry to hear that this engine concern you're having with your Aveo is so difficult to track down. If we can look into this further for you, please email us the following information at socialmediagm.com: your name and Edmunds username, your phone and address, the last 8 digits of your VIN and current mileage, and the name of your involved dealership.
Sarah, GM Customer Service
#113 of 300 Chevy Aveo engine problems
Sep 21, 2012 (1:38 am)
The Chevy Aveo apparantly uses surplus engines from years past to produce the cheapest car possible. This is the only explanation I can come up with for engines that are out of production and the fact that they have so many problems. I am currently rebuilding my nieces' engine from a 2004. The car is exquiusite. No flaws on the interior, the engine looks like you could eat off it. She had it for 6 months and it blew. She is 20 years old and in the reserves. Serving her country in the National Guard and has a car that leaves her stranded. It is a Daiwoo engine that is out of production. Anyway, the machine shop we took the head to says they are famous for this. The plastic housing on the thermostat cracked and the car ran hot, warping the head. We had to have a valve job, new valve seats and gaskets. Haven't put it back together , yet, but we will definitely replace the water pump, the timing belt, the tensioners and anything else we think were compramised before we try to fire it up again. This is the worst engine ever. Make sure you have the timing right if you are in the same position, or else you will be pulling the head back off. This is the worst car ever. I have never been a Chevy fan, and seriously would not be working on this if it wasnMt my nieces' car. Chevy should be ashamed to call themselves Americans.
#114 of 300 Re: Main fuse box burning on a 2005 [kevin_gurl]
Sep 27, 2012 (9:05 am)
My dash lights and clock had long been gone then, My tail lights wouldn't flare at night on my 2005 aveo. I had new fuses put in fuse box to correct the problems and now it's burned out leaving me with no sensor activity from my fuel pump, So my car won't start. All within 3 hours of the repair.