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Toyota Camry, Sedan
#45 of 69 I own a 2007 V6 Camry with no problems!
Nov 29, 2007 (3:55 am)
I own a 2007 XLE Camry with 19,500 + miles, and I have no problems with this vehicle. It will be one year old in January. I do a lot of highway driving, and the vehicle is serviced by the selling dealer every 2,500 miles. (My choice!)---- I have an appointment on December 3rd with the dealer to perform the 20,000 mile service, (oil and filter change, brake check and a brake fluid flush). ----- In January, I plan on having the trans fluid changed.---- (One year of my driving is like two years for the average person!) ----- Prior to the Summer, I will have the engine coolant replaced.
When I first purchased this vehicle and I started to read these boards, I was VERY concerned about the quality of my vehicle. But, after driving it for almost one year, I DO NOT have any issues to report, and I am very comfortable with owning the vehicle. ------- Does this mean that there are no problems with the Camry? ----"NO"! --- It just means that my vehicle seems to be "OK" at 19,500+ miles! ---- Will it stay that way in the future? ----I don't know, but I have a Toyota 6 year / 100,000 mile, (top-of-the-line), extended warranty to deal with any future issue. (This is the reason why I have the selling dealer perform all of the service!)
Prior to purchasing this vehicle, I owned a 2003 - 4 cylinder Honda Accord, (that was purchased used)! I switched to the Toyota because of the comfort of the seats.
On the road, I get at least 30mpg. I think that this is great for this vehicle size.
Before I purchased this vehicle, I looked at the Chevrolet Impala, Buick, Hyundai, and Nissan. The Chevrolet and Buick dealers could not get the trim package that I wanted in a "stock vehicle" in New Jersey. (I did not want to order a vehicle! Too many problems with this process, especially if the vehicle comes in with some cosmetic issues / mechanical issues.) The Toyota dealer had the vehicle in stock with all the equipment that I wanted, so I purchased the Camry.
I would have no problem purchasing a Camry in 2010, but I would take an extensive "test ride" with the vehicle that I was about to purchase. I would also look at a Chevrolet and a Buick. My next vehicle might be a Hybrid.
Best regards. ----------- Dwayne
#46 of 69 Re: I own a 2007 V6 Camry with no problems! [djm2]
Nov 29, 2007 (6:08 am)
I've said this before, and I know you're an older guy with very strong opinions on this. But I still have a hard time understanding why you are "overmaintaining" this car when you plan to keep it only 3 years. I could understand if you wanted to hold on to it for a very long time, but you really don't even need to have the coolant changed at all in 3 years (it's supposed to be good for 5 years or 105K miles, whichever comes first). (Still, I'd do it somewhat more often.) Transmission and brake fluid changes at 1 year and 20K miles? Yes these should be done eventually, but not this soon. And 2500-mile oil changes which at your mileage rate amounts to 8 times a year -- what a waste IMHO. I hope you're not using synthetic oil -- I'd reuse your "waste" oil in my cars if that were the case!
I have 2 Camrys purchased new, both 4-cylinders, one a 2004 with 48K miles and the other a 2005 with 25K miles. I change the oil and filter myself on both every 6 months (about 4K miles), and I've drained and refilled the tranny fluid on the older car once so far. I rotate the tires every 7500 miles and have replaced the air filter once and cabin filter twice so far on the older car (but not yet on the newer one). The newer car has had absolutely NO problems and the older one only has a very minor "stiction" in the steering when I make a left turn at slower speeds. These cars don't need to be babied -- they're not Ferraris or even VWs for that matter.
#47 of 69 Re: Dont buy 2007 Camry [sn1022]
Nov 29, 2007 (10:37 pm)
You can't see your blind spot
Isn't that why it's called a blind spot
#48 of 69 Re: I own a 2007 V6 Camry with no problems! [210delray]
Nov 30, 2007 (4:08 am)
Good Morning 210delray:
I take long road trips with this vehicle, and I do not want issues on the road. (This is the reason for the Toyota Extended Warranty, and the 2,500 mile oil and filter changes.) As you can see from my postings, I accumulate the mileage very rapidly. Some of it is "stop-and-go-driving" and some is "highway driving". Since I am in sales, I cannot afford a problem on the road. (My vehicle is my office.) Through a little extra preventive maintenance, I am trying to prevent a potential problem.
BACK TO THE SUBJECT OF THE POSTING:
This vehicle is different than my 2003 Honda Accord. I think that the "drive by wire" accelerator control is responsible for some of the issues, (problems), that you see posted on these boards. I use a "very slow application of the accelerator" when entering a highway. The shift characteristics are very crisp and positive! When passing another vehicle, I press the accelerator slowly, the transmission shifts to a "passing gear," and once the action if taken, it "up-shifts" without a problem. I DO NOT jump between the brake and the accelerator as characterized by agressive / bumper to bumper high speed driving. (I would think that with a "drive by wire system," this type of driving would exaggerate the lag in the accelerator response, because the vehicle is getting two different commands in a short period of time. It is like a human being trying to do two things at once.) I think that some of the complaints with this vehicle, that you read on these boards, are "driver induced issues", (that is using out dated driving styles on vehicles with new technology.)
Yesterday, I had the opportunity to drive a 2004 Honda Civic. This vehicle does not have a "drive by wire system". The operational characteristics were totally different than my Camry.
YES, I would consider purchasing another Camry. I find nothing wrong with this vehicle, and it is more comfortable than my old 2003 Honda Accord. I have a great selling dealer, and the service is outstanding.
Have a "GREAT DAY"!
Best regards: ------------- Dwayne
I DO NOT use a full Synthetic Oil! ---- I believe that the Toyota dealer is using an oil that is partly synthetic! ----- I will be on the road today, (a 6 hour round trip to Atlantic City). ----- Yes, I will stop at the "Wild West Buffet" at Ballys! I always mix "pleasure with business"! ----- Remember "life is TOO short" to drive a car that you don't like, and don't believe everything that you read in the "owners manual" of vehicles. Most of the maintence recommendations are formulated on "conjecture" about the longevity of lubricants and fluids. Today we are dealing with new technology, new operating characteristics, new materials and new lubricants and new fluids. Only time will tell, (in real world applications), if the recommendations are correct!
#49 of 69 Downshift delay/hesitation defined...
Nov 30, 2007 (7:59 am)
Look at it this way...
You have entered a freeway acceleration lane and as you glance back over your left shoulder you unconsciously, instinctively(??), lift the gas pedal slightly. You quite possibly do that 2 or 3 times before spotting an opening in the fast(er) moving upcoming traffic that you feel you can safely accelerate and merge into. But now when you apply the GO pedal what you get is 1-2 seconds of NO-GO. NOW its decision time, AGAIN! Can you still accelerate fast enough, quickly enough, to merge SAFELY...??
Each time you looked back over your left shoulder and unconsciously lifted the gas pedal the engine/transaxle ECU had to make a decision as to your true intent. As a general rule a lift throttle event will quickly result in an upshift, provided one is available, and the following gas pedal depression will, generally, result in a downshift.
Your transaxle does NOT have a hydraulic pressure accumulator/storage "tank", nor does it have an ATF pump with enough capacity with the engine at idle, to support two gear changes in quick sequence, succession.
The ATF pump was downsized beginning in about '98 to improve FE and after a few years of stumbling about trying to find a solution for failing(***) transaxles Toyota has settled on DBW to "protect the drive train", prevent the engine torque from rising in response to gas pedal depression until the transaxle shifting is complete.
*** '99 (and '00[??]) RX300's with "Camry/Avalon/ES300" transaxles. The AWD versions, more stress on the tranny, having even a higher premature failure rate.
#51 of 69 Would you?
Jan 11, 2008 (4:54 pm)
For you Camry owners with the transmission problem, would you still recomend buying a Toyota?
#52 of 69 Re: Would you? [hause7]
Jan 11, 2008 (5:01 pm)
Absolutely yes, for the 4 cylinder models. The quick reprogram of the computer (35 minutes) solves the problems. Camrys built after August have the new software already. Consumer Reports shows problems with the V-6, not the 4 cylinder.
#53 of 69 Re: Would you? [hause7]
Jan 14, 2008 (5:27 am)
I own a 2007 V6 XLE with 21,300+ miles. The vehicle is one year old, and I do not have any problems with the transmission. The vehicle is serviced only by the selling dealer, (every 2,500 miles / my choice). On the highway it gets 30mpg. I would highly recommend this vehicle. (No, I do not sell Toyotas.) ----- Does this mean that there are not any vehicles out there that have a problem? ------ No! ---- But I think that the true "problem vehicles" are a small percentage of the total production. In addition, I think that some of the operational issues, that you read about on these boards, are driver induced. Remember, this vehicle is a "drive by wire" operation. You cannot drive this vehicle like a "cable controlled throttle" vehicle! The throttel response is different! You will notice this fact when driving in the snow! YES, I would recommend this product.
Best regards. ---------- Dwayne -------
#54 of 69 Re: Would you? [djm2]
Jan 14, 2008 (7:28 am)
In addition, I think that some of the operational issues, that you read about on these boards, are driver induced. Remember, this vehicle is a "drive by wire" operation. You cannot drive this vehicle like a "cable controlled throttle" vehicle! The throttel response is different!
The problem with that statement is other manufacturers have been using "drive by wire" for some time now and many of the posters here have driven them and reported that they do not exhibit the same "throttle response" issues as the Camrys.