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#21 of 30
Re: my mpg on Outlook [mhlovelle] by jrosario
Dec 02, 2007 (7:59 pm)
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Replying to: mhlovelle (Oct 06, 2007 6:10 pm)

My wife calls our Outlook the"Big Lots" car. We have had a few problems with ours (noisey front end,poor radio,chipping paint,Etc..). What problems have you had?
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MPG on recent trip by chuckhoy
Dec 04, 2007 (6:17 am)
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This is a post I promised about the mpg I got on a recent trip to my Dad's house for Thanksgiving. It was about a 700 mile round trip with a jaunt into downtown Chicago to the Shedd Aquarium and tot he local mall to go shopping with the wife to prevent domestic violence from shopping withdrawal.
 
Overall we got about 22 mpg for the trip that was 90% highway at 75mph.
 
No, that was not too great. But, there were a couple of mitigating factors. Firstly we had to fight the wind the whole trip. We had a wicked cross wind on the way there that was a constant 20 mph with gusts past 30 mph as we travelled in the aftermath of the first winter storm in the area. Many cars in the ditch. The Outlook handled the wind just fine and I was surprised at the little amount that such a large vehicle was tossed around. If that wind had shifted 9 degrees, we could have used a bed sheet to sail to Chicago. As it was, I'm sure it did not hurt a lot, but it did not help any. On the wy home it was a different story. The wind did shift, but not in our favor. We had to travel the whole way into a decent head wind. That killed our mpg.
 
Secondly, being stuck in holiday gridlock in a major metro area did not help the cause a whole lot. We did a lot of sitting in traffic and stop-and-stop-and-go.
 
Overall I was a bit disappointed, but it was in the ballpark of what I expected. I would have liked to see the 25 I had seen in previous trips but it was only a 10% difference easily attributed to the conditions.
 
On a side note: you need to turn off the stability control to do a proper powerslide in the snow.
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Re: MPG on recent trip [chuckhoy] by seloo
Dec 08, 2007 (6:39 am)
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Replying to: chuckhoy (Dec 04, 2007 6:17 am)

Agree, the MPG is not impressive! My wife's 7-year old mini-van gets 22 on the highway at 75 MPH.
 
Overall, the MPG ratings of all the CUVs has been very disappointing.
#24 of 30
2007 xr AWD Outlook Mileage by jenjr
Dec 12, 2007 (3:08 pm)
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4800 Miles on the car and have heard it all, the mileage stinks. Returned to dealer multiple times and they claim nothing they can do. Mileage was best 13.5 and has been going down since. Ww had the trans recall performed mileage went up on -the highway on way home to 20.5 and then started to fall and never came back up again. No at 11.
 
Dealership seems clueless on how to fix the issue.
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Re: 2007 xr AWD Outlook Mileage [jenjr] by chuckhoy
Dec 13, 2007 (6:46 am)
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Replying to: jenjr (Dec 12, 2007 3:08 pm)

What is the rpm that your tach is reading? Mine is always below 2000 when traveling below 75-80 mph. Your awful mileage may be due to your tranny not being in the right gear when not accelerating.
 
Also, what is your driving style? If you are gunning it fromstoplight to stopliglight and doing a lot of aggressive driving on the freeway your mileage will be terrible.
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reply by jenjr
Dec 13, 2007 (3:15 pm)
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After reading all the articles we have continually attempted to keep the rpm under 2000, we tried higher octane gas as suggested by dealer, and still no improvement. After the transmission campaign (recall) the mileage improved for one tank and started to drop off and no improvement since. I had it back to the dealer 3 times for mileage, I contacted saturn to take and scheduled another appointment at different dealership. At this point I'm ready to contact an attorney for lemon law on tranny. If the milage improved once why can't they fix it. Now they tell me there is nothing wrong?? I don't buy it.
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Re: reply [jenjr] by chuckhoy
Dec 14, 2007 (7:46 am)
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Replying to: jenjr (Dec 13, 2007 3:15 pm)

That does suck hard. I have been fortunate that we have had no problems with ours. I have been getting about 16-18 in suburban driving and 22 or so on the highway. If the wind is out of the right direction, I can get it up to 25.
 
I see no reason why anybody should get 11mpg. There has to be something wrong with it. Is a brake "sticking"?
#28 of 30
mileage by cpkramers
Dec 18, 2007 (7:12 am)
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1200 miles on our '07 XR FWD, and the mileage is a disappointment thus far. Interstate only driving at 75 in eastern Iowa gets me maybe 21. Combination of Interstate and around town gets me about 16. A two hour trip yesterday at 65mph crossing through a few small towns got me 21. I expected better with an 18/26mpg sticker. All these numbers are using the onboard computer for avg mileage, which seems to be pretty close.
 
One thing I notice is that it shifts easily into 5th going up hills on the interstate, and it likes to stay in 5th sometimes much longer than it should. Especially in a head wind. If it's not shifting up I'll just tap the brake to get it back into 6th and then resume cruise.
 
Still very happy with this vehicle even though I was wanting better mileage.
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Re: mileage [cpkramers] by jeyhoe
Dec 23, 2007 (8:55 am)
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Replying to: cpkramers (Dec 18, 2007 7:12 am)

Jumping in here briefly as the Oulook/Acadia/Enclave triplets are on my radar to replace my Navigator. So I am curious about what folks are getting mpg-wise. I must say the numbers I see in here are about what I would have expected. Probably like most of you, I hoped for more!
I looked up the '08 and apparently the new EPA numbers are 16/24 for the FWD Outlook. That jibes pretty well with the numbers in this topic. cpkramers, you're getting about 16/21, but you're cruising at 75 and that IME will lower the highway number. Especially with a fairly boxy vehicle. I know in my '04 Nav, I can get 18-19 on the highway if I keep it between 60 and 65mph. Go faster, and it's down to 16-17. In town, just going back and forth to school with the kiddos I'm lucky to see 12. Interestingly, the sticker on my 4WD Nav was: 12/16 It's always been my experience that the EPA number on the sticker is *very* close to the numbers I'll see driving the car. I'm a fairly average driver. Dont goose it that often.
Last, it is interesting to note that nearly identical cars can get different mpg numbers. I recently had my Nav in the shop and had a rental Taurus for several days. Then I picked up the Nav, drove it home and had to bring it back cause something wasn't right. Got a different rental Taurus. Both cars had appx 18000 miles on em. I drove both over pretty nearly the exact same terrain for a couple days. The first one showed just shy of 22mpg on the computer when I returned it. The second one was over 25. That's about 15% difference. If the engineers could figure out where that 15% comes from and guarantee it on every car - that's a better than cylinder deactivation and direct injection combined!
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Re: mileage by mike263
Feb 20, 2008 (8:23 am)
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Replying to: jeyhoe (Dec 23, 2007 8:55 am)

We have had our '07 Outlook FWD since October 2007. I immediately added air to 34psi at each corner. At the first oil change, I went with Pennzoil synthetic. I am currently looking for a K&N air filter to replace the stock filter.
 
So far we average anywhere from 14-18mpg in regular driving, which mostly is a 20 mile round trip commute from 5 miles outside of town. On the highway we get 26mpg with cruise set at 74mph under very windy conditions. After the K&N filter is installed and after the switchover from the wintertime blend of gasoline, I'm hoping to get to 28mpg on the road and maybe average 17-18 in town.
 
Am glad we didn't kick out the extra $$$ for AWD. We've had unusually frequent and heavy snow/ice conditions this winter and our Outlook has gone thru it all with no problems.

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