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Acura MDX vs Buick Enclave CXL

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What is this discussion about? Acura MDX, Buick Enclave, Car Buying, SUV


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jimjack by jimjack
Jun 28, 2007 (8:56 pm)
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Went back to the dealer for another test only with my wife along. The SH AWD means super handling. Very cool..
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Re: jimjack [jimjack] by merlin14
Jul 05, 2007 (5:29 pm)
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Replying to: jimjack (Jun 28, 2007 7:27 am)

Jimjack. My understanding is the SH-AWD uses variable torque in all wheels, while most systems just adjust front to back. The result is that cornering and wet conditions are a lot safer to drive in.
 
Motortrend has some information on their site if you are interested....
 
Ah, I see in another forum you bought an MDX already. If you get a chance tell us more. I am also a former Suburban (Yukon XL) owner and considering the Enclave. Why did you eventually go with MDX? Right now, for me, it is down to what works better in our garage.
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jimjack by jimjack
Jul 06, 2007 (7:19 am)
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Merlin14,
The bottom line is the rating of the 2 vehicles. Go to Kelly blue book .com and once you've got either car up on your screen, look at the resale value and other info available. All lees than the Buick. I believe the edmunds will show the acura as better than average in it's integrity while the Buick (consistent with GM) shows as less than average.
I pull a boat 4K lbs and I chose to speak with the Service advisors re: the Buick and my needs. Although the Buick will pull the 4500 lbs, they suggested that it would be a strain and likely too much stress.
The fit and finish on the Acura was better. I plan to keep my car for 5 years and I just thought that the Acura had more appeal to all for resale purposes vs. the Buick. Not many younger generation would look at the Buick as a gotta have it typed car. While the Acura appeals to most demographics.
that's my take..
 
Jim
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Re: jimjack [jimjack] by varmint
Jul 06, 2007 (9:03 am)
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Replying to: jimjack (Jul 06, 2007 7:19 am)

Be careful when considering towing and read the fine print.
 
Acura/Honda used to publish a towing figure assuming the passenger compartment was filled with 4 passengers and 200 lbs of gear. (A total of 800 lbs.)
 
With the Ridgeline and now the 2007 MDX, they now publish specs based on only 2 passengers and their gear. (A total of 500 lbs.)
 
Other companies will publish specs with 1 occupant and zero cargo. There is no consistency, either. I've seen GM trucks with figures based on 1 occupant and Buick SUVs based on 2. Ya gotta read the fine print.
 
In the end, two vehicles "rated" to tow 4,500 lbs may be separated by as much as 650 lbs once you do the math.
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Re: jimjack [varmint] by parker4551
Aug 03, 2007 (11:45 am)
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Replying to: varmint (Jul 06, 2007 9:03 am)

These vehicles are rated to tow, but I wouldn't advise anything over 3000 pounds, especially if you are talking the Buick Enclave. That thing already weighs over 5000 pounds, and that is taxing enough on that drivetrain.
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Re: Buick beats Acura [ody02tjk] by sookmdx
Aug 03, 2007 (3:15 pm)
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Replying to: ody02tjk (Jun 14, 2007 1:25 pm)

I HAD the Q7 3.6 Premium for 3 months. Beautiful interior, nice ride, adequate power. I loved the MMI interface (still find myself reaching down to find it in my MDX). The huge sunroof was nice but made the A/C really strain to keep things cool. However, the car broke down after 2 wks (400 miles or so ). Rode real rough, like it was missing a cylinder or two and was out of balance. After 3 months and basically replacing every part above the block the problem was fixed. Fortunately Audi mediator had already offered to buy back my car by then so I walked away free and clear. My circumstance is far from typical but scared me enough that I'll never do German again.
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no one is perfect in this class by zeg
Aug 12, 2007 (1:25 pm)
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Still waiting for a dream one to come in this price class ...
Couldn't find AC seats in the class. Like someone mentioned in the forum, 3rd row in GX470 is a joke, 08 highlander is bit better, but not much; when could Lexus build one in this price range with decent 3rd seats? Maybe a RX-L
GL and X5 if money is not too much an issue
 
MB R350, if only it is less VAN like
MDX, softer seat and more upscale interior looking
Veracruz, perhaps 6" longer for bit more cargo space and real wood trim, sound is top in the class, well balanced and smooth ride, HID, Nav and AC seats?. Quite a newcomer though
Enclave, Arcadia etc, price/quality ratio is questionable
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Re: jimjack [jimjack] by spicymikey
Aug 12, 2007 (5:49 pm)
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Replying to: jimjack (Jun 28, 2007 7:27 am)

Acura's SH-AWD is a "smart" wheel drive that distributes torque left and right (not only front to back). As a result, the system can shift more power to one wheel if it wants. It will do this around turns by spinning the back outside wheel faster then the others. The result is an amazing sensation of riding rails. The cars front is pushed in to reduce the chance of understeer. You don't feel like your fighting gravity as much (because your not). It's still quite unique in the industry even with the stupid name (super handling awd). Don't think of it as a feature for getting out of a snow bank. Consider it more of a performance driving feature.
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SH-AWD by schnell76
Aug 15, 2007 (12:24 pm)
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The 07 mdx with the SH-AWD drives like a dream in the rain. I live in FL with common downpours and water on the road. My previous vehicles I have always had to slow down and felt "uncomfortable" while on wet roads. With the MDX it does not slip or slide at all on wet roads and gives a great sense of security in the 10 months that I have owned it.

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