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Mazda CX-9 Tires and Wheels

70 messages,  Last post on Mar 11, 2009 at 10:49 AM

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Re: We opted for the 18" winter tire set [vikefan7] by ceric
Mar 06, 2009 (12:58 am)
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Replying to: vikefan7 (Mar 05, 2009 3:47 pm)

I don't think he/she meant OE wheels of 18".
Alloy wheels can differ greatly in prices. If you want the OE 18", the best prices would probably be from your local craigslist due to shipping cost.
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Re: We opted for the 18" winter tire set [vikefan7] by howardru
Mar 06, 2009 (7:22 am)
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Replying to: vikefan7 (Mar 05, 2009 3:47 pm)

Rims alone for $1400? Are you looking at the original Mazda?
 
I purchased 4 new 18" rims, plus TPMS, plus 18" DMZ-3 Blizzaks shipped to my house for $1400 from TireRack.
 
The Sport Edition Rims on TireRack are shiny and good enough for winter.
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Re: We opted for the 18" winter tire set [howardru] by vikefan7
Mar 06, 2009 (9:40 am)
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Replying to: howardru (Mar 06, 2009 7:22 am)

No, it was rims and tires for $1400 and not the OEM wheels.
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It was these rims... by vermonter
Mar 06, 2009 (1:33 pm)
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Like post #62 mentioned, I bought the Sport Edition rims (SE-14) on tire rack in bright silver and the DMZ-3 Blizzaks. No TPMS. Total cost on Tire Rack is $1,124 before shipping. Our Mazda dealer agreed to offer us the same package through Tire Rack at their cost, which came to a little over $1,000 including tax and shipping. Great looking rims and wonderful winter tread.
 
We don't rely on TPMS up here. Yesterday when I walked to work, it was negative 6 degrees f. Today it warmed up to 40. The very first week we bought the Mazda, when we still had the 20" rims and summer tires on, the TPMS light came on and turned off about 4 times due to the fluctuation in the temps. A below zero night and sunny 20 degree day will do it most times.
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Re: It was these rims... [vermonter] by ceric
Mar 06, 2009 (7:11 pm)
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Replying to: vermonter (Mar 06, 2009 1:33 pm)

Interesting to me about the TPMS.
I did an experiment with my daughter on tire pressure vs MPG.
At 60f when we tested it, the TPMS does not light up until somewhere between 20 to 25psi (i.e. OK at 25psi, light up at 20psi). Tires are warm up after low-speed driving.
 
Basically, you were saying that -6f caused one of the tire to go below 25psi. The absolute zero is -273f. Temp fluctuation from -6 to 40f is less than 20% compared to 273f. The PSI change should be less than 6psi is it was 30psi.
In short, I suspect one of your tires has low pressure (i.e. < 30psi). You might want to check for it.
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Re: It was these rims... [ceric] by tidester HOST
Mar 06, 2009 (9:28 pm)
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Replying to: ceric (Mar 06, 2009 7:11 pm)

The absolute zero is -273f.
 
Actually, absolute zero is about -459.7° Fahrenheit which is about -273° Celsius.
 
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Re: It was these rims... [tidester] by ceric
Mar 06, 2009 (9:51 pm)
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Replying to: tidester (Mar 06, 2009 9:28 pm)

My bad. Been away from chemistry for way too long...
Anyway, in that case, the % is more like 10% instead of 20%. That means a drop from 40f down to -6f will only cause 3psi difference.... If I am correct this time.
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Re: It was these rims... [ceric] by tidester HOST
Mar 07, 2009 (1:31 am)
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Replying to: ceric (Mar 06, 2009 9:51 pm)

A good rule of thumb is that the pressure changes by about 1 psi for every 10° F change in temperature.
 
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Re: It was these rims... [tidester] by vermonter
Mar 11, 2009 (5:17 am)
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Replying to: tidester (Mar 07, 2009 1:31 am)

Thanks for the calculations, very interesting. We are vigilent about monitoring our tire pressure and rely on a handheld digital gauge. Do you think the impact of the sun on the sidewalls, when parked, could increase the temp enough to account for the TPMS light turning on and off?
 
I'll reiterate that this only seems to happen when we have extreme temp fluctuations and is not an every day occurence. The dealer as well as a local garage said that TPMS often give false alarms in the colder winter climates.
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Re: It was these rims... [vermonter] by tidester HOST
Mar 11, 2009 (10:49 am)
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Replying to: vermonter (Mar 11, 2009 5:17 am)

Sunlight will certainly heat up the tires though the heat transfer would likely be more via the metal wheels/rims as opposed to the sidewalls.
 
I can't say whether that is sufficient to trip the TPMS but those systems are supposed to be designed to deal properly with changes in ambient temperature. It could be that the threshold for triggering the lights is overly sensitive or the TPMS itself is defective. It would be interesting to know whether others have experienced this problem in other geographic locations.
 
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