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Buick Enclave Lease Questions

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Re: Residual and Money Factor [lwolf99] by Car_man HOST
Jun 06, 2007 (1:32 am)
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Replying to: lwolf99 (May 26, 2007 4:12 am)

Greetings lwolf99. GMAC's current base lease rate and residual value for a 24 month lease of any 2008 Buick Enclave with 15,000 miles per year are 7.2% and 67%, respectively. As you can see, GMAC publishes lease rates instead of money factors for the vehicles that it leases. You can convert its published lease rates into approximate money factor equivalents by dividing them by 2400.
 
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Re: Residual and Money Factor [Car_man] by lwolf99
Jun 07, 2007 (5:22 pm)
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Replying to: Car_man (Jun 06, 2007 1:32 am)

Thanks very much. I am going to shoot for a test drive this weekend.
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Re: Residual and Money Factor [lwolf99] by Car_man HOST
Jun 08, 2007 (2:45 am)
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Replying to: lwolf99 (Jun 07, 2007 5:22 pm)

No problem, lwolf99. Make sure to let us know how everything turns out.
 
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Lease or not? by griz7674
Jun 08, 2007 (10:50 am)
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I have been offered a Buick Enclave for about $1000 under invoice (I'm eligible for GMS pricing). I am about $4000 upside down on my F150 and the sales person is telling me that the best way to go is to lease the Enclave. I average 22,000/yr so I am hesitant here. I am waiting on the numbers but for what little I know about leasing, I would think, especially being upside down, that buying outright is still the way to go. After you add in the $4000 loss in trade, I would be about $1000 above MSRP. Thoughts? Thanks!
 
Bob
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Re: Buick Enclave: Lease Questions [kyfdx] by jragosta1
Jun 21, 2007 (7:09 am)
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Replying to: kyfdx (May 08, 2007 6:35 pm)

So what would I expect to spend on a 39 month lease, $0 down for an AWD CXL?
 
I've found that leases are often poor deals unless the manufacturer has a special. Any specials on the Enclave?
 
Thanks.
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jimjack by jimjack
Jun 22, 2007 (3:41 pm)
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Bob,
What is GMS pricing?
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Re: jimjack [jimjack] by wlbrown9
Jun 25, 2007 (5:38 am)
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Replying to: jimjack (Jun 22, 2007 3:41 pm)

GM Supplier Pricing. If you work for a company that is a 'supplier' for GM, you could have the plan available. Your Human Resources department will be able to give you your company ID and set up access for you. Other manufacturers have similar programs.
 
Benefits of the program are usually getting pretty low if not rock bottom pricing without having to deal real hard. Sometimes you also don't have to pay a DOC fee to the dealer.
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jimjack by jimjack
Jun 25, 2007 (6:55 am)
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Thanks Bob,
Hmmm, Human Resource dept eh?. Ooops, I'm a self emolyed Contractor.
I'm all the resource I've got in that dept.
Still looking for anyone that has hooked up their Acadia, Enclave, Outlook to a boat that is 4k lbs. And how did it do..
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Re: jimjack [wlbrown9] by kyfdx HOST
Jun 25, 2007 (9:33 am)
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Replying to: wlbrown9 (Jun 25, 2007 5:38 am)

Actually GMS is employee pricing...
 
The supplier pricing has a different designation (which escapes me at the moment).
 
I know.. counter-intuitive, but there you have it..
 
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kyfdx
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your thoughts on Enclave lease quote? by lwolf99
Jun 25, 2007 (1:10 pm)
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Car_Man and others,
 
What are your thoughts on this quote I received from a dealer...
 
2008 Buick Enclave, CXL, AWD, Power Sunroof with 2nd row skylight, Driver Conf Pkg, Luxury Pkg, 19" chrome wheels, entertain pkg #4, trailering pkg, wheel content credit, cargo net, cargo shade, $735 destination charge, cocoa metallic exterior, cashmere interior.
 
Info from dealer quote:
MSRP = $45,465.00
Vehicle Cost = 42,404.63
Profit = $1,352.14
Sell price = $43,756.77
Lease Aquisition fee = $595.00
Cap Cost = $44,351.77
Fees = $177.50
Money due at inception = $1079.00 (1st pmt $901.50+177.50)
Payment Info = $827.06 base + 74.44 tax = $901.50
Retention Rate = 7.70000
Reserve Rate = 0.00000
Disclosed Rate = 7.70000
Odometer = 800 miles
Term = 24 months
Mileage = 15,000 per year
Residual = 67%
Residual = $30,381.55
 
Some of my thoughts:
- My calculation of invoice price(using Edmunds) = $41668. So I am not sure where he is getting his 42,404.63 cost figure. Seems to be high by $736. At first I thought that was Dest.Chg., but then I verified that was already included in by Invoice Price calc. Are there advertsing fees maybe?
- I had another (more detailed) quote from a dealer and it showed $450 for LAM Dealer Contribution and $225 LAM Group Contribution. Are they advertsing fees?
- Even if his cost figure was right, $1352 over invoice seems high to me, even for a new vehicle. Am I right or am I expectign too much, at this time?
- $1,000 Conquest Cash should apply to me, so his $1352 actually becomes $2352 profit, right?
- does the rate and monthly pmt seem right to you? Is he saying that the rate is 7.7%
- 800 miles seems like it has been used as dealer demo. Should I expect a better price for a "new" vehicle that already has 800 miles on it?
 
Overall, I do want to get an Enclave, and I do want to get one in the next 2 weeks- to be able to take advantage of the $1,000 Conquest - since it is basically free money.
 
I am willing for the dealer to earn a reasonable profit - maybe $500 over invoice or so, plus his holdback and stuff. But I get the feeling of beeing taken to the cleaners on this offer. What do you think?
 
Thanks for your time, and your thoughts.

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