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Re: Car_Man, Lease Terms 36mo & 39mo please! [desgnconcpts]
by vtraudt
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Aug 10, 2007 (5:58 am)
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Replying to: desgnconcpts (Aug 10, 2007 5:32 am)
I started to look into the Enclave as an alternative to MB R class and Audi Q7 (seemed out of my range); but getting the first quotes, and reading here what the lease conditions are, I come to the conclusion: The R class and the Q7 are actually better deals.
Unless GM is pricing (lease conditions) the Enclave more competitively, it is hard for me to see too many concious (=aware) buyers taking an Enclave over a R class or Q7.
vtraudt
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- #48 of 160
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Re: Car_Man, Lease Terms 36mo & 39mo please! [vtraudt]
by ody02tjk
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Aug 11, 2007 (4:15 am)
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Replying to: vtraudt (Aug 10, 2007 5:58 am)
Your assessments are quite correct between the Audi. Enclave, and R Class. After shopping quite a bit in late May, I went to buy an Enclave. I liked the space, styling, and the way the car drove. However, their was an Audi dealer directly across the streest from the Buick dealer, so I checked there as well. The lease deal they offered me on a CXL AWD Enclave ($45400 MSRP, $40855 sale price with GM supplier pricing) with $0 down, 36 months, 12K miles was $685 a month. I was able to get an Audi Q7 3.6L Premium (with Panorama roof, Infotainment, convenience pkg, 20 inch wheels, and premium Red paint) for only $704 a month. The MSRP on this car was nearly $58K, and the sales price was $53600. Audi is subsidizing their leases with nearly 0% interest, and that is making the lease payments very competitive. Buick has back orders of 2-3 months on the Enclaves, and GM does not need to subsidize the cars (yet). They recently cancelled the $1000 conquest rebate. I did not check much into the Mercedes, besides test driving the GL class. After reading MANY folks posts on Mercedes reliability, and have heard the personal experiences of several friends and neighbors, I was not willing to lease one of Mercedes vehicles. For my money, I got the Audi. I love the way it drives, the huge sunroof, and the Bluetooth connection (which ALL GM cars lack). FYI, my dealer also through in the Audi Care package as well, meaning no maintenance costs for the first 4 years.
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- #49 of 160
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Re: Car_Man, Lease Terms 36mo & 39mo please! [ody02tjk]
by vtraudt
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Aug 11, 2007 (5:46 am)
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Replying to: ody02tjk (Aug 11, 2007 4:15 am)
Which means, we have to wait until sales of the Enclave drop (should not be long; I expect fall).
Has anybody compared the lease offers for the Enclave with the GMC Arcadia?
Just curious. Same car.
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- #50 of 160
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Re: Car_Man, Lease Terms 36mo & 39mo please! [vtraudt]
by desgnconcpts
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Aug 12, 2007 (4:50 am)
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Replying to: vtraudt (Aug 11, 2007 5:46 am)
Don't expect the sales to go down by fall -- maybe by the 2009 model year if at all. I just saw an article that quoted a Buick spokesman saying they have a waiting list of 3,000 -- I'm sure that's accurate because I'm one of them! They're adding a 3rd shift at the Lansing Delta Township Plant, where all 3 Lambda's are mfg -- but according to the Buick spokesman, this is temporary to get caught up with the backlog of orders and will apparently be used almost exclusively to build the Enclave (or maybe they will shift Acadia and Outlook to 3rd shift production and build Enclaves almost exclusively during shifts 1 & 2).
They have no intention of keeping the 3rd shift unless demand remains strong -- they do not want to overbuild and have Enclaves sitting on lots. Right now, this vehicle has the shortest time of any in inventory across the country -- less than 5 days on average. In many cases, they're sold before the wheels ever hit the ground and I have heard of many instances where several folks bid against one another and have paid upwards of $3K over MSRP.
Car_Man, can you please answer my request up above for current August Lease Terms for the Enclave. Dealers are being non-committal about the MF -- I'd really like to know what it is -- instead of taking the dealer's word.
Thanks
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- #51 of 160
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Re: Car_Man, Lease Terms 36mo & 39mo please! [desgnconcpts]
by bsc1114
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Aug 12, 2007 (5:50 am)
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Replying to: desgnconcpts (Aug 12, 2007 4:50 am)
I ordered my Enclave July 6th and was told about 8 weeks. The other day I went into the dealership and the sales manager said definitely by the first week of October. He also told me about the third shift business. I'll be lucky if I have it by Christmas!!
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Re: lease question [js76]
by Car_man HOST
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Aug 24, 2007 (2:21 am)
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Replying to: js76 (Aug 08, 2007 7:39 am)
Hi js76. I haven't worked up any payments on the Enclave lately, but I doubt that one can lease one for $400 per month with nothing down. You probably can get one for less than $500 per month though. If I was personally in the market for a 7-passenger SUV, I would seriously consider getting a Honda Pilot. It is usually one of the best values for this type of vehicle.
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- #53 of 160
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Re: Car_Man, Lease Terms 36mo & 39mo please! [desgnconcpts]
by Car_man HOST
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Aug 24, 2007 (2:23 am)
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Replying to: desgnconcpts (Aug 10, 2007 5:32 am)
Hi desgnconcpts. GMAC's current base lease rate and residual value for a 36 month lease of a 2008 Buick Enclave with 15,000 miles per year are 8.0% and 60%, respectively. The lease rate for a 39 month lease would be the same, but its residual value would be 59%.
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- #54 of 160
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Re: Car_Man, Lease Terms 36mo & 39mo please! [vtraudt]
by Car_man HOST
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Aug 24, 2007 (2:25 am)
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Replying to: vtraudt (Aug 10, 2007 5:58 am)
You're absolutely right, vtraudt. The Mercedes-Benz R-Class is an outstanding deal right now. I am not personally a big fan of its looks  , but for I can overlook its styling to get such a useful Mercedes at an amazing price.
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Re: Car_Man, Lease Terms 36mo & 39mo please! [ody02tjk]
by izbod
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Sep 25, 2007 (6:08 am)
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Replying to: ody02tjk (Aug 11, 2007 4:15 am)
How much was out of pocket on the Audi? I looked at 3.5 Premium with tech package and they gave me a stupid offer of $3500, 785 a month. I walked out. Right now I have a loaded FX35  399 mt. The program was unique and I lucked out, but the lease term is up.
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Re: Car_Man, Lease Terms 36mo & 39mo please! [izbod]
by ody02tjk
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Sep 25, 2007 (7:33 am)
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Replying to: izbod (Sep 25, 2007 6:08 am)
I was out of pocket about $3900, detailed as follows: $2500 Cap cost reduction, $495 lease fee, $200 T&T, and $704 for first months payment. I got a 2007 3.6 Premium, with the Panorama Roof, 20inch wheels, convenience and infotainment packages, Bluetooth, Sirius (not worth the monthly fee) 3rd seat, 4 Zone Climate Control, and the extra cost Garnet Red Color. My selling Price was $53200. That deal was at the end of May, and was the best deal I could find in the metro Baltimore, Southern PA, and DC markets
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