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Re: Is This A Good Deal [Car_man]
by dammitjim1
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Apr 04, 2008 (9:21 am)
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Replying to: Car_man (Apr 04, 2008 2:29 am)
Hi Car_Man,
I completely agree with your sentiments on paying that kind of money for a Buick. Even if it were a sign and drive lease, that is a crazy amount of money to shell out for that car.
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Re: Is This A Good Deal [Car_man]
by bondguy1
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Apr 06, 2008 (4:33 am)
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Replying to: Car_man (Apr 04, 2008 2:29 am)
I don't have the contract in front of me at this moment but I remember seeing something for cap cost of about $39,900 or around there...maybe $39,940...something like that. As far as paying that much for a Buick and being able to get a BMW for that money...go try and do it in my market in South Florida. No money down on a BMW lease is still coming out of pocket with about $4,000 at start. Second, there were no BMW's that interest me. The 5 series to me is ugly as heck, the 7 series too expensive and the 5 series SUV is way too much money to lease...probably about $800+ per month plus tax. I could have leased a Volvo or Mazda CX9 for low $500's including tax and it had more stuff on it featurewise but it's not the same car. First of all, correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the Mazda only come with a 3/36 warranty? If so, and I was going to lease for 39 months with 15K/annually , what happens when I'm over mileage? I thought the same as you...that much for a Buick...I couldn't even believe I was getting a Buick. I could have for similar money got a Tahoe or bigger SUV. I could have leased a brand new Lincoln Navigator for $597/month sign and drive with scheduled maintenance included...only 10,500 miles allowed per year but could have probably bumped it up to 15K for a little more per month..problem is, my wife is only 4'11" tall...she can't park something that huge...second, do I really want to get only 13 MPG on a Navigator (NO). I was coming out of a fully loaded 2005 Audi A6...second Audi A6 lease in a row...six years of a German car (although a great car) and I was ready for a change. I never had an SUV before and liked the style and features on the Buick. I was saying the same thing as you about paying that much for a Buick. The Audi Q7 SUV is nice looking but has too many terrible reviews...the cars are a mechanical nightmare...had a friend who purchased one and had to Lemon Law the thing. Plus, they similarly equipped as the Buick were at $61,000 pricetag. So, I put it to you...find me that BMW or Mercedes for the same money...oh, yes, I could have leased the Merdedes R class (the stationwagon looking one) for probably similar money but don't like the looks and there are way too many Mercedes in my area...the service at the Mercedes dealers locally is terrible....you have to make an appointment weeks in advance...I don't want that hassle nor do I like driving something that looks like a stationwagon. I like the fact that there aren't too many Enclaves on the road...more unique is okay with me. And, the reliability of Buick according to the JD Power results from August of 07' were number one, tied with Lexus. My residual I think was 59% for a 39 month lease. Total including first payment at start to dealer was $1,250 check. For what it's worth, that $660 per month is including tax.Also, you have to figure in other factors. On most new leases, unless you go for another term with the same brand afterwards, you have a big disposition fee (a nice way for the leasing company to scrw you out of anywhere from $300 to $400 extra dollars to turn the car in). So, add that into the equation...no dispostition with GM. Second, I am allowed on my lease to turn it in with up to $5,000 dollars in damage (hopefully not enough dents or dings will be on the car to equal that amount). This means, that if my tires ar low on tread or there are a few scratches or the interior is dirty, I can safely turn it in without worries. You obviously have never leased a Lexus and then not released with them again. I have freiends who have done this and their leasing company (not sure it it was Toyota Financial or not) tried screwing them out of perfectly clean looking cars...claiming the leather was dirty and charging them and similar other things. No worry lease with GM in that department. So, again, I put it to you, the choices when you factor all of these things in arent' as clear cut as you say. Plus, which Lexus are you talking about for less money per month? An RX series SUV which is tiny and styled from 8 to 10 years old with new tailights or trim to call it the new model this year...nope, not for me. The Enclave is a car that has a long list of great features, good warranty and more unique looking than all the other choices in this price range. Just my opinions though!!!
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