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Re: Lease Deals for April [bondguy1]
by dammitjim1
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Mar 27, 2008 (5:39 am)
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Replying to: bondguy1 (Mar 27, 2008 2:01 am)
Oh well, GM is going to ride this gravy train for a while and keep lease rates unattractive. If conditions change before my Tahoe lease is up, I'll go for it. As things stand now, I might not continue with leasing a GM car.
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Re: Lease Deals for April [dammitjim1]
by bondguy1
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Mar 27, 2008 (3:09 pm)
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Replying to: dammitjim1 (Mar 27, 2008 5:39 am)
Funny, I just did the same thing with Audi. I am coming up on the end of my 2nd Audi A6 lease. You would think maybe they would care about some retention of previous customers..NO. I called to schedule my lease turn in check up where they inspect the vehicle (pre turn in inspection) and told her I am getting my new car on Saturday. She asked if it was another Audi...I kindly explained my frustration with Audi and their high pricing of options and she told me there is a whold thing going on with Audi concerning that exact suject. They price the options in pkgs that are too expensive instead of just offering the ones I want a la carte like years before. As it turns out, I am very excited about getting the new Enclave and it does feel good to support our country and buy a USA made car...I just hope they don't screw it up for me and sell me a lemon. Fingers crossed!!!!
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Re: Lease Deals for April [bondguy1]
by dammitjim1
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Mar 27, 2008 (5:24 pm)
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Replying to: bondguy1 (Mar 27, 2008 3:09 pm)
I feel your frustration myself. About the only other GM vehicle that interests me is the Saab 93. I am waiting until around May or later when I'm well into the Pull Ahead period to explore whether pricing is better on the Enclave or whether the Saab is worth acquiring. I can tell you through 2 GM vehicle leases, I had warranty service only one time for an extremely minor issue on the Tahoe. That being said, I drive way less than the 12K mi/yr allowed on the lease. If you look at the owner reviews on The Enclave or just about any other car on this site, you'll see a mixed bag of horror and love stories. I hope yours is one of the latter.
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Re: Is This A Good Deal [bondguy1]
by Car_man HOST
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Apr 04, 2008 (2:29 am)
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Replying to: bondguy1 (Mar 22, 2008 10:03 pm)
Hi bondguy1. While the Buick Enclave is a nice vehicle and I definitely understand the merits of buying American, $660 per month for one is nuts. For that sort of money, I personally would be looking at a BMW, Mercedes-Benz, Acura, or Lexus. The Enclave's current lease program is pretty bad, so if you want to lease one it is important to get as large a dealer discount as possible. You never mentioned the selling price of the vehicle that you are interested in leasing. This is an important number for you as a consumer to know for two reasons. First, the selling prices of leased vehicles can be negotiated, just as if you were paying cash for them. Without knowing the price of the car that you want to lease you don't know how good a price you are getting it for. The second reason is that one needs the selling price of the vehicle that they want to lease is that it is necessary to calculate its lease payment. Myself and others will happily give you our opinions of this deal if you let us know what its selling price is.
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Re: Lease Deals for April [bondguy1]
by Car_man HOST
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Apr 04, 2008 (2:33 am)
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Replying to: bondguy1 (Mar 26, 2008 11:22 am)
Hi bondguy1. General Motors' lease program on the 2008 Buick Enclave is exactly the same in April as it was in March. The only new offer on this truck is an owner loyalty program which provides an additional $500 cash incentive on the lease and $1,000 on the purchase of an Enclave to current GM owners and lessees.
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Re: Is This A Good Deal [Car_man]
by dammitjim1
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Apr 04, 2008 (9:21 am)
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Replying to: Car_man (Apr 04, 2008 2:29 am)
Hi Car_Man,
I completely agree with your sentiments on paying that kind of money for a Buick. Even if it were a sign and drive lease, that is a crazy amount of money to shell out for that car.
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Re: Is This A Good Deal [Car_man]
by bondguy1
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Apr 06, 2008 (4:33 am)
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Replying to: Car_man (Apr 04, 2008 2:29 am)
I don't have the contract in front of me at this moment but I remember seeing something for cap cost of about $39,900 or around there...maybe $39,940...something like that. As far as paying that much for a Buick and being able to get a BMW for that money...go try and do it in my market in South Florida. No money down on a BMW lease is still coming out of pocket with about $4,000 at start. Second, there were no BMW's that interest me. The 5 series to me is ugly as heck, the 7 series too expensive and the 5 series SUV is way too much money to lease...probably about $800+ per month plus tax. I could have leased a Volvo or Mazda CX9 for low $500's including tax and it had more stuff on it featurewise but it's not the same car. First of all, correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the Mazda only come with a 3/36 warranty? If so, and I was going to lease for 39 months with 15K/annually , what happens when I'm over mileage? I thought the same as you...that much for a Buick...I couldn't even believe I was getting a Buick. I could have for similar money got a Tahoe or bigger SUV. I could have leased a brand new Lincoln Navigator for $597/month sign and drive with scheduled maintenance included...only 10,500 miles allowed per year but could have probably bumped it up to 15K for a little more per month..problem is, my wife is only 4'11" tall...she can't park something that huge...second, do I really want to get only 13 MPG on a Navigator (NO). I was coming out of a fully loaded 2005 Audi A6...second Audi A6 lease in a row...six years of a German car (although a great car) and I was ready for a change. I never had an SUV before and liked the style and features on the Buick. I was saying the same thing as you about paying that much for a Buick. The Audi Q7 SUV is nice looking but has too many terrible reviews...the cars are a mechanical nightmare...had a friend who purchased one and had to Lemon Law the thing. Plus, they similarly equipped as the Buick were at $61,000 pricetag. So, I put it to you...find me that BMW or Mercedes for the same money...oh, yes, I could have leased the Merdedes R class (the stationwagon looking one) for probably similar money but don't like the looks and there are way too many Mercedes in my area...the service at the Mercedes dealers locally is terrible....you have to make an appointment weeks in advance...I don't want that hassle nor do I like driving something that looks like a stationwagon. I like the fact that there aren't too many Enclaves on the road...more unique is okay with me. And, the reliability of Buick according to the JD Power results from August of 07' were number one, tied with Lexus. My residual I think was 59% for a 39 month lease. Total including first payment at start to dealer was $1,250 check. For what it's worth, that $660 per month is including tax.Also, you have to figure in other factors. On most new leases, unless you go for another term with the same brand afterwards, you have a big disposition fee (a nice way for the leasing company to scrw you out of anywhere from $300 to $400 extra dollars to turn the car in). So, add that into the equation...no dispostition with GM. Second, I am allowed on my lease to turn it in with up to $5,000 dollars in damage (hopefully not enough dents or dings will be on the car to equal that amount). This means, that if my tires ar low on tread or there are a few scratches or the interior is dirty, I can safely turn it in without worries. You obviously have never leased a Lexus and then not released with them again. I have freiends who have done this and their leasing company (not sure it it was Toyota Financial or not) tried screwing them out of perfectly clean looking cars...claiming the leather was dirty and charging them and similar other things. No worry lease with GM in that department. So, again, I put it to you, the choices when you factor all of these things in arent' as clear cut as you say. Plus, which Lexus are you talking about for less money per month? An RX series SUV which is tiny and styled from 8 to 10 years old with new tailights or trim to call it the new model this year...nope, not for me. The Enclave is a car that has a long list of great features, good warranty and more unique looking than all the other choices in this price range. Just my opinions though!!!
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About to do battle...
by bobinchitown
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Jun 06, 2008 (4:50 am)
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Car guy (or anyone else!),
I'll be heading out this weekend to look seriously at an Enclave...CXL AWD w/about $4k in exras. I'll be leasing: 36mo. & 45k total mi. It's early June so I'm wondering what residual and GMAC APR I should shoot far. (Thnx to Edmubds I have the Cap cost targert figure!) What are the current programs for current GMAC lease holders besides the current "pull forward?
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Re: About to do battle... [bobinchitown]
by Car_man HOST
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Jun 23, 2008 (2:34 am)
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Replying to: bobinchitown (Jun 06, 2008 4:50 am)
Hi Bob. GMAC's current base lease rate and residual value for a 36 month lease of a 2008 Buick Enclave with 15,000 miles per year are an unattractive 8.0% and 60%, respectively. I believe that General Motors is only waiving the final two payments for current lessees who lease a new GM product right now.
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Re: About to do battle... [Car_man]
by jomac69
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Jun 23, 2008 (6:21 pm)
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Replying to: Car_man (Jun 23, 2008 2:34 am)
Hey CarMan...is there any benefit to leasing a used Enclave? Say if one already had 12000 miles on it....could you get a 24 or 27 month lease that would be a much lower payment since the residual would still be the same for 36000 miles at 60%? Or is this bass ackwords? How does this work...if it does at all?
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