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Re: Is this a good deal? [griz7674]
by wlbrown9
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Jun 20, 2007 (1:52 pm)
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Replying to: griz7674 (Jun 20, 2007 1:03 pm)
Not enough info to give you an answer...wondering more about if you can economically justify dumping the F150 for an Enclave. IF you drive 25,000 miles a year and get 12 MPG in the F150 and could maybe get 21 MPG by shifting to an Enclave, that could save you maybe 70 gallons a month. At $3/gallon, you would be saving $210 a month is gas.
You then mention 12,000 miles a year, so if I adjust the calculations to about half that mileage, you would only save $100 or so a month in gas. If you are only going to be saving $100/month is gas, does it really make sense to trade? One kicker of course is that you will have to roll $4,879 of negative equity into a 36 month lease or about $130 to $140 a month right there.
So, will you be any better off doing that vs keeping the F150 for a couple of years until it is paid off or you are at least even and not upside down?
Beware leasing for low mile allowance then having a large mileage penalty at the end. Wondering about that since you quoted both 25K & 12K miles.
I can't comment on the lease deal you were offered...I have not leased and have not sat down and gone through the process to see how it works. Sorry on that point.
Just one thought, some folks like the Ford Freestyle...I have seen them advertised for the low $20K range lately, some have said $25K for a loaded Limited. 7 passenger as well, maybe not on the level of the Enclave but if your decision is really economic, it might be worth a look.
Good day,
Bill
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Re: Is this a good deal? [griz7674]
by kcorey
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Jun 20, 2007 (2:10 pm)
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Replying to: griz7674 (Jun 20, 2007 1:03 pm)
For the past month, or so, I've been looking into leasing an Enclave CXL. I presently lease a 2005 Terraza $371/ month, and the lease expires in January of 2008. The best "deal" so far is for a CXL with the Luxury & Driver Confidence Packages, no down payment, $521/month. What I want has to be special ordered, so it would be about September 1st for delivery. GM willl probably have a 2 month buy-back, and the dealer will pick up 1 months' payment for me. After contacting about 15 dealers, this is the best so far. Hope this helps. Good luck.
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Advertising Fees for Enclave
by lwolf99
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Jun 26, 2007 (11:48 pm)
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Can anyone comment on Advertising Fees. I saw a dealer invoice for an 08 Enclave CXL AWS in the Pittburgh, PA area, and there were two additional items on the invoice that was not expecting.
- $450 for LAM Dealer Contribution
- $225 for LAM Group Contribution
- so a total of $675
Are these Advertising Fees? Should I expect to include this amount in any calculations for dealer invoice price? In other words, if Edmunds invoice price is $41668. Do I need to add an additional $675 to that figure when trying to calculate an offer price of invoice + $some number.
Thanks in advance.
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Re: Just ordered new Enclave [jpiatchek]
by bernh
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Jul 02, 2007 (8:40 pm)
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Replying to: jpiatchek (Jun 16, 2007 8:13 pm)
I most applaud you on getting such a good deal; I have been through the worst weekend of my life trying to purchase a loaded Enclave. I live in Miami and have searched every dealer in south Florida all the way to Tampa, fl. and cannot get a dealer to budge below MSRP. NOTHING, not even 100.00 off. I went to Miami Lakes GMC-Pontiac (yes I am going to say the name so no one will go to this dealer) and the dealer actually said they had to add an additional 4,000 to MSRP because of availability. Man did I laugh in his face; this dealership was looked down on by many dealers that I talked to afterward. Anyway, I have been on the phone all day still no luck. How did you do it? All I’m trying to get is 1,000 off the MSRP. They are still making tons of money on this vehicle. (GREED) Anyway, I’m not giving up I will keep trying.
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Re: Just ordered new Enclave [bernh]
by budi
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Jul 03, 2007 (7:26 am)
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Replying to: bernh (Jul 02, 2007 8:40 pm)
bernh, are you looking to purchase off the lot or factory order? It seems from the two dealers that I was working with that dealers are trying to hold firm to MSRP on cars on the lot and will negotiate on factory. The first dealer would only knock off $400 from MSRP, I was like I can do better than that! I did a factory order and I am slightly below edmunds tmv.
p.s. There also was no trade involved on my deal.
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Re: Just ordered new Enclave [budi]
by bernh
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Jul 03, 2007 (11:27 am)
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Replying to: budi (Jul 03, 2007 7:26 am)
We were trying to purchase off the lot, no one has offered to order us one, should we request it? We don't have a trade in either we are not doing any financing either we have already have the money we just need to purchase from the dealer. Today we had a dealer offer 350 off MSRP. We are still not happy with that. How do we go about ordering one? Your help is appreciated...
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Re: Just ordered new Enclave [bernh]
by kcorey
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Jul 03, 2007 (12:29 pm)
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Replying to: bernh (Jul 03, 2007 11:27 am)
I hope this helps...I went on-line to Edmunds, picked out the car (Buick, 2008, Enclave), then the body style (CXL or CX), then the color and options that I wanted (not what some dealer had on his lot). Then, I went to different dealers and told THEM what I wanted! I just asked them for a price. It's really none of their business, at this point, if you have a trade-in, are paying cash, or are financing. All you want is the price...and tell them you are willing to wait the 10 weeks, or so, for the car as YOU want it. Good luck in your search.
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Re: Just ordered new Enclave [kcorey]
by bernh
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Jul 03, 2007 (12:51 pm)
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Replying to: kcorey (Jul 03, 2007 12:29 pm)
Thank you, I'll let you know how it works out....
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Just got my Enclave, Pittsburgh, PA
by lwolf99
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Jul 03, 2007 (4:50 pm)
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I just got my Enclave. CXL, AWD, Cocoa Metallic, Luxury Package, Drivers Convenience Package, Entertainment Package #4, Trailering Package, and Dual Moonroof.
I agreed to $200 over invoice, minus $1000 Conquest Cash Rebate, equals $800 under dealer invoice. I got a SmartLease from GMAC, 39-month lease, with 59% residual.
It was a dealer demo, with 800 miles on it. I wished I could have got one with zero miles on it, but there were absoletely no Enclaves in inventory in the Greater Pittsburgh, PA area, that had the Trailering package. I found a few similarly configured ones without the Trailering package, but I wanted the hitch. I could have ordered, but the Conquest rebate was ending, so I took the deal. Dealer was nice (Budd Baer, Washington, PA). They originally offered $1300 over invoice, and 7.7% lease rate. When then came down to $200 over invoice and 7.2% lease rate, I agreed.
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Re: Just ordered new Enclave [bernh]
by budi
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Jul 03, 2007 (7:36 pm)
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Replying to: bernh (Jul 03, 2007 11:27 am)
After contacting the dealer through edmunds. I wrote to the internet sales manager saying can you do this deal. I spelled out the options I wanted and what i wanted to spend including transportation minus any incentives at time of delivery. They accepted, I ordered ( gave a 1k deposit). Could I have gotten a lower price? probablly. I feel I got a fair price and he was getting a fair profit. You just need to take the bull by the horns and name your price rather than they dictating terms.
Be nice, reasonable and I think you will get a better deal ordering than purchasing off the lot. I think dealers make a huge profit on the "got to have it now" condition.
Good luck
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