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Re: Firm Invoice Prices [music287]
by boomzer
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May 09, 2007 (8:34 am)
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Replying to: music287 (May 09, 2007 7:41 am)
The salesperson showed me the invoice price. It matched Edmunds to the penny except for the ad fee
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Re: Firm Invoice Prices [boomzer]
by glimo
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May 10, 2007 (8:09 am)
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Replying to: boomzer (May 09, 2007 8:34 am)
glad to see this thread up and running.
We solicited fax quotes from 6 local dealers (sent in quote requests through multiple websites initially). After some back and forth bargaining on the phone, the best offer we have now is $350 less than dealer invoice (including destination and ad fees). On top of that we need to pay tax, tag/registration ($260, this is only a little higher than titling/tag services charge here) and $100 doc fee.
This offer is still $500 from our initial bottomline (Edmunds invoice price). But the manager is not willing to budge further. All the other offers are at least $450 more than this. Should we just cave in at this point or try to haggle more face-to-face? If we delay ordering any further, we will risk losing the $1k conquest cash.
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Re: Firm Invoice Prices [music287]
by glimo
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May 10, 2007 (8:12 am)
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Replying to: music287 (May 09, 2007 7:41 am)
We ordered an Enclave weeks ago for "Invoice plus ..." Our dealer just told us that our cuv has been built and is being shipped "as we speak." He says that, as of last week he didn't have firm invoice prices from GM (although they appear in the Edmunds and KBB sites.)
Can anyone confirm that GM has provided invoice prices to their Buick dealers? I want to firm up our contract.
Jay
I can confirm that dealers have invoice price now. At least 3 dealers showed invoice price on their quote. It's Edmunds invoice plus ad fee.
Are they seriously that fast building and shipping Enclaves? In that case I probably shouldn't worry about the conquest cash
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Re: Firm Invoice Prices [glimo]
by boomzer
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May 10, 2007 (8:55 am)
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Replying to: glimo (May 10, 2007 8:09 am)
You have made me rethink my order, I thought $500 over invoice was a good deal considering it was a brand new model and that Acadia buyers were having some trouble negotiating. $350 under is great price, even if they stick you with the ad fee, that gets you back to where I wanted to be, which was $500 over the Edmunds invoice amount. Throw in the conquest rebate and your under invoice. I would take it, my dealer indicated that the order time was 8 to 10 weeks, which will be real close to July 9th when the conquest ends. I'm going to solict some website bids and see what I get back in return.
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Ordered, Yah!
by glimo
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May 10, 2007 (11:52 am)
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Hubby and I went to the dealership this afternoon and placed the order. The manager wouldn't budge on the selling price no matter what. We knew it wasn't a bad deal already and since I'm 8 months pregnant, I really didn't want to walk out and start the negotiation elsewhere from the scratch. Finally we talked him into removing the doc fee and tag/registration charges ($360 total) since we can do our own registration with cash purchase. He also threw in an additional year of free oil change and tire rotation, which isn't worth a lot but still better than nothing.
This is what it breaks down to:
MSRP - $43,725
Dealer Invoice - $41,083
Selling Price - $40,725
Tax - $2,037
Total cost - $42,762
We paid $500 deposit using credit card. With the order number, we can try to call GM and track order status, but may be referred back to the dealer since GM is overflooded with order inquiries
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Re: Firm Invoice Prices [boomzer]
by glimo
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May 10, 2007 (12:00 pm)
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Replying to: boomzer (May 10, 2007 8:55 am)
Boomzer, definitely shop around a little bit before you firm up the deal. We found the internet quote solicitation to be the least stressful and most effective in our case. When you have several signed fax quotes, you can show the lowest one to the others so they can compete and beat the price. This is much easier than the last time when I purchased a Ford, I had to stay in the dealership for five hours to haggle down the price to my bottomline. I carefully went through every bit of info on carbuyingtips.com and i think it helped.
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Re: Firm Invoice Prices [glimo]
by boomzer
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May 10, 2007 (1:04 pm)
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Replying to: glimo (May 10, 2007 12:00 pm)
Thanks glimo, I'm in the process of doing that now. It really annoys me, that you ask for a quote and they ask you to come in. I feel like screaming what is the point of an internet request. If I can match your deal, any hesitation on ordering will be gone. I see you only paid 5% tax, your not in Jersey are you? What state did you purchase in?
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Re: Firm Invoice Prices [boomzer]
by glimo
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May 10, 2007 (1:42 pm)
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Replying to: boomzer (May 10, 2007 1:04 pm)
We are in MD. A couple of dealers asked us to come in and discuss the price or test drive, blah, blah. And I rejected them up front. We've done our homework, so just fax me the base price with all my options, the selling price, estimated tax and whatever fee the dealer need to include and give me an OTD price. Took me 3 days to collect all the quotes and bargain the price. Your patience will pay off
BTW, didn't you already place the order?
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Re: Firm Invoice Prices [glimo]
by boomzer
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May 10, 2007 (4:16 pm)
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Replying to: glimo (May 10, 2007 1:42 pm)
I placed an order, but no strings attached. It is marked sold to me, but I gave them no money. They will call me when it comes in and if I don't like the deal or color combo, I can just walk away. Wanted to get in on order to see if I can beat the Conquest deadline. Can you let me know the dealer, maybe I can use a fax quote from them to lower my price in Jersey. I went to Mass to buy my Odyssey to save a lot of money, I don't think I would drive to MD to save $800, but it might be good leverage.
Thanks
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Re: Firm Invoice Prices [boomzer]
by glimo
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May 11, 2007 (5:23 am)
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Replying to: boomzer (May 10, 2007 4:16 pm)
Boomzer, I sent an email to your carspace.com email address on the dealer information. Go to Mailbox and you'll see it.
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