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Re: Build process [first300m]
by zman3
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Dec 15, 2007 (7:49 am)
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Replying to: first300m (Dec 14, 2007 11:34 pm)
I am just guessing but it probably has to do with the size of your dealer or the number of Enclave orders they had already taken. My understanding is that dealers are given allocations based on many factors such as number of vehicles sold. It is possible that the dealer took the order knowing that they were not going to have an allocation for quite some time. I think the issue lies with your dealer not being up-front with you, not GM.
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- #179 of 268
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Re: Build process [zman3]
by ekuanimal
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Dec 16, 2007 (11:01 am)
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Replying to: zman3 (Dec 15, 2007 7:49 am)
I hear the frustration out there and I share in that same frustration  and Zman3 is correct; much of this is with the dealerships. But GM still carries much of the blame. These dealerships are basically "agents" for GM since you cannot buy a car directly from GM; if GM cares about the end user they need to make some changes soon. My dealership is a large Buick dealership in Houston, TX and is also frustrated with this Enclave mess; he showed me the orders. But my question still goes unanswered; what is the build process and timeframes for delivery  . I was given a "timeframe" of Dec 12-17 for my build; the GM status showed my build actually starting on Dec 12th. What does that really mean?? My sales man says that what he sees is not what GM tells him. Will I see this car this year?? Will it be late January?? Trust me, my salesman wants to give me an answer (we talk daily) but GM will not tell him anything. So, how is it this a dealer issue? I am staying with the Enclave because they have the best car in the area I need; crossover with 3rd row seats. This will be the last car I buy with that need (kids will be older). 15 weeks and counting...
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Re: Build process [ekuanimal]
by kcorey
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Dec 19, 2007 (2:27 pm)
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Replying to: ekuanimal (Dec 16, 2007 11:01 am)
I understand your frustration in ordering and waiting, but I dont't think the answer is as easy as we think. First, it's true that the dealer is aa "agent" of GM, but they are as much an agent as "Best Buy" is an agent of Sony. True, you could go to another retailer and buy a Sony (and you have to go to a Buick dealer to buy a Buick), but all dealerships are indepentantly owned, and as such some are more truthful than others. As for the build time...I ordered my Enclave on 6/18, and it was delivered to me on 9/18 (13 weeks to the day). My son ordered the identical car to mine (except he ordered Cocoa, mine was Red) on 6/18 and his car was delivered in 7 weeks. Same dealer, same price. Yes, even the dealer was shocked. He's not a large dealer (by New York City standards) but he is honest. He told us both upfront to expect a wait time of from 12 to 16 weeks, and regrettably, maybe a little longer. So, we expected a long wait. But...and it's a big but...it is worth the wait. No other car on the road compares to the Enclave, at any price!
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- #181 of 268
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Re: Build process [kcorey]
by nunzi
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Dec 20, 2007 (11:57 am)
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Replying to: kcorey (Dec 19, 2007 2:27 pm)
I feel so much better after reading your post so I will try to be patient and wait. I too have children, 2 as a matter of fact. 6&11 the older one loves this car and we are coming down from a Navigator. My intentions are the same keep it for 8-10 yrs.
by then I will be ready for an electric car !!! I feel really bad for ekuanimal because it just does not sound right. His situation. My dealer has already told me that production date is week of Jan 17th. I ordered mine Nov 2 and my color is White Tricoat so it is an unusual color and I anticipate delays. But since you said the wait is worth it.. I will try to be patient.. HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO ALL !!!!! Millie 
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- #182 of 268
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Re: Build process [kcorey]+End of Year deals?
by ekuanimal
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Dec 21, 2007 (8:34 am)
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Replying to: kcorey (Dec 19, 2007 2:27 pm)
We are all in agreement on the communication part of my question and the "reason" for the differences in delivery are not totally clear... I was also confused on the two dates I was given; Build between Dec 12-17. Well, we got word on Tuesday (Dec 18) that our car was loaded and shipped on a train on Monday (Dec 17). So, I believe the process initiated on the 12th and completed on the 17th; but no one could say that was a fact. The salesman said that it "should" be here in 1-2 weeks.. but with the holidays he could not be sure. I am hoping we get delivery before the end of the year but who knows? My biggest issue was that i turned in my company car on Dec 1st; when we ordered the car in early September we were told of a 8-10 week wait not 16+.. We will make due since we waited. Now I want to see if there are any Buick deals (money back, etc) available right now... Anyone have any information on that? HAPPY HOLIDAYS!
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Re: Build process [kcorey]+End of Year deals? [ekuanimal]
by kcorey
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Dec 22, 2007 (9:30 am)
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Replying to: ekuanimal (Dec 21, 2007 8:34 am)
Try going to buick.com/enclave or gm.com. Then go to "deals" and your state, but I don't think there is anything available on Enclaves. Enjoy the holidays...and hopefully by now, your new Enclave.
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gtrom23
by gtrom23
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Dec 26, 2007 (1:29 pm)
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hello,
imlooking to buy an buick enclave.the dealer told me that if i have a cupon for gmc employer i can get a big discount.anybody knows what she is talking about and how i can get my hands on one.?thank you !
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Re: Build process [kcorey]+End of Year deals? [ekuanimal]
by tencjedd
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Dec 27, 2007 (9:53 pm)
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Replying to: ekuanimal (Dec 21, 2007 8:34 am)
I just searched Buick.com's inventory near my zip code, found a White Diamond TriCoat in a CXL with Entertainment Package #4, Luxury Package, 7 passenger seating (captian's chairs 2nd row), and the Driver Confidence Package, walked in and bought the car for $1000 UNDER sticker. END OF YEAR is here people. Why special order? Suggest you search hard on Buick for the car you want!
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- #186 of 268
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Re: Build process [kcorey]+End of Year deals? [ekuanimal] [tencjedd]
by nunzi
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Dec 28, 2007 (9:08 am)
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Replying to: tencjedd (Dec 27, 2007 9:53 pm)
Well under sticker. But how much over invoice.????. That's when you know the deal is really good. Also, that may have worked for you but some people such as myself did not want all the bells and whistles. I did not want a console and I only wanted ent pkg #2 so for me, why pay for something I do not need. I am fine with special ordering. Works for me.. Good luck with yours and enjoy your new year in your New car.... Milli
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- #187 of 268
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Re: Build process [kcorey]+End of Year deals? [ekuanimal] [tencjedd] [nunzi]
by tencjedd
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Dec 28, 2007 (10:48 am)
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Replying to: nunzi (Dec 28, 2007 9:08 am)
$2k over invoice. ($3k MSRP Invoice Spread on $45,xxx sticker). My research and haggling showed the best price on an immediate delivery car was $1500 under sticker (~+$1000 over invoice). Best deals to be had are on totally stripped CX versions. White Diamond and Red Jewel colored cars are few and far between and are commanding "premiums" versus other colors, with White Opal benefiting despite being a non-premium color.
I agree on no 2nd row console with the 7 passenger seating (which is configuration we bought). Makes 3rd row access as easy as mini van.
Dealers in NY TriState area generally have at most 3 cars available, so if you can wait, that's great.
Mazda CX9 handled much better, but the Buick's interior was hands above as well as styling edge to Buick. Mazda's 0% financing for 36 months was also attractive, but in the end the Enclave was worth the premium.
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