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#34 of 75 2007 Honda Fit - Electronic Power Steering EPS Intermittent Failure
Oct 29, 2008 (4:38 pm)
This morning when I started my car to go to work the power steering did not work. It was a cold morning - 40 degrees (cold by Florida standards). I googled the problem and found this forum. Per forum information, I tried restarting the car a few times, which did not solve the problem. I called Honda at 800-999-1009, described my problem and the common problem in this forum. Honda stated that they had no technical service notes and issued a case # N012008-102900045, stating that only the dealer could diagnose the problem and if the dealer could not find a problem there is no problem. Since my car has almost 77K miles I'm out of warranty. I called to check tow prices to get it to the dealer >$100. I went back out and restarted the car. This time the power steering worked and the indicate light turned off.
I drove it to Brandon Honda who diagnosed that the electronic power steering control module was defective due to the latched computer code of 32-09. The EPS control module is $734.80 (P/N 39980SLNA01). Adding labor and taxes for a grand total of $971.00.
When the power steering goes out I would not consider the car "drivable". It is this factor that makes this problem unsafe. A failing EPS control module during driving has a high possibility of resulting in an accident.
I am getting my "failed but working" EPS control module back from the dealer. If anyone has electrical diagrams to connect this module - please post. I would like to put the module in the temperature chamber at work and cycle it through the automotive temperature range of -40C to 125C. I suspect that this a temperature related power on reset and/or initialization problem that impacts all 2007 Honda Fits.
#35 of 75 2007 Fit Power Steering concern
Nov 20, 2008 (9:01 am)
As I mentioned earlier, the power steering has stopped twice on me. Both times while idling. After evaluation by my honda dealer they replaced the EPS unit.
Part Number 39980-SLN-A21. Honda covered the part, I was told it was over $700.
I covered the labor, as my car was just over warranty period by a few miles.
Labor was $131.86.
So far all is well, but it will take some time to regain my confidence that it's really fixed.
I was pleased with how the dealer handled it. Although they claim Honda has no knowledge of an issue. I printed this entire blog and took it in with me.
That really helped.
#36 of 75 Re: Power Steering Problem.... [jwj3]
May 02, 2009 (11:21 pm)
Hi, did you ever get an answer to the steering not working at start up. We have this happen primarily when temperatures are below freezing and / or near freezing and damp. We've been to a dealer twice and they claim no TSBs and no previous complaints. Sometimes it takes several minutes for this to clear up. Sometime you just turn off the car and start again and the power steering works.
We're very frustrated about this and not sure what to do next.
#37 of 75 Re: Power Steering Problem.... [vincetca]
May 03, 2009 (4:02 am)
It took me a long time to get this worked out, but finally it is fixed! I went round and round with the dealer and they also refused to fix it. Finally after talking with the Honda Corporate people numerous times (and opening a case number), I threatened to report this problem to the National Highway Safety Institute (you can find this online). I was very frightened that a dangerous accident might occur when the power steering went out. Honda Corporate agreed to pay for a loaner car for me indefinitely while I left my Fit at the dealer. The dealer would try to duplicate the problem. No matter what blogs or info I showed them, the insisted that they had to duplicate the problem. I was fine with that as long as I had a car to drive. Lucky me, they started my Fit first thing in the morning on the first day...and the power steering went out! They were able to hook it up to the computer and get a full read on the problem - which was of course, what I had been telling them, that a new Electronic Powering Steering System (EPS) had to put in. They had to order the part which took a couple of weeks (and I kept the loaner the whole time at no charge). This all happened in January and I've never had a problem since. I'm back to loving my Fit again! Good luck!
#38 of 75 Honda Fit Suspension-
May 03, 2009 (8:29 am)
Bought a '09 Sport a couple of months ago, after having a CRV for 8 years. THAT has been an adjustment. But loving the Fit more each day. Great fun in corners, however, my back is not crazy about the suspension. Seens you feel every little crack in the road through your butt or back. Does anyone know of a way to soften the ride a little? Adjustment? Replacement shocks/springs?
Thanks for any ideas.
#39 of 75 Re: Honda Fit Suspension- [jefffit]
May 11, 2009 (12:43 pm)
Talk to a tire dealer who is really knows tires. Not just a kid at Walmart. I went the other way (soft OEMs to H rated performance) and it was a great success!
#40 of 75 Re: Honda Fit Suspension- [whitehawk]
May 14, 2009 (5:04 am)
Thanks whitehawk. What tire brand, and type, did you buy, and what difference did you notice? What year is your fit?
#41 of 75 Re: Honda Fit Suspension- [jefffit]
Jun 01, 2009 (9:03 pm)
Hi... I feel exactly the same about my '08 FIT, I absolutely LOVE it, but the suspension is terrible, you are correct and feel EVERY bump/crack/hole in the road, I'm in the process of moving from FL to OH, and the roads up north (especially in Ohio) are terrible, the ride is SO bad I don't enjoy driving... any help with the TIRE comments/solutions would be greatly appreciated. THANKS so much!
Jun 24, 2009 (3:35 pm)
Had an intermittent steering failure on the '07. Took the dealer copies from here. There is now a Honda bulletin on the problem, 09-043.
Dealer replaced the unit even though they couldn't replicate the problem.
Jul 16, 2009 (9:18 am)
So my wife had the same problem as everyone else. We have a 07 Fit that is out of warranty. She was idling at a stop light and the steering locked up. She had to go straight instead of turning and could have gotten in an accident. So we called our Honda Dealership and they told us to bring it in to have a $50 diagnostic exam. We insisted that we not pay for it since it is a safety issue. We argued with the service manager, but he eventually agreed to do a complementary diagnostic check. He was very rude at first and even made my wife cry. So, that Monday, I took the car in and they ran a diagnostic check. I spoke with the service manager in person and I told him about the bulletin (#09-043), and our complaint to the Highway Safety Commission. He didn't have to duplicate the problem, probably because of the bulletin, and told me that two codes came up having to do with the Electronic Power Steering. He then told me that he would get on the phone with Honda Corporate and "go to bat for me." After about a half hour of waiting, he brought me into his office and said that Honda would take care of the part and half of the labor. He said that as a courtesy, he would take care of the rest of the labor. So, absolutely no charge to me! It took two days for the part to arrive and they gave me a loner car until we got our Fit back. It took some time and some courage, but you can get this part fixed if you stick to your guns about it being a safety issue.