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Why NOT to buy a 2007 Mitsubishi Outlander XLS

127 messages,  Last post on Nov 28, 2008 at 3:26 PM

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Re: Outlander "thump-thump-thump tire?noise [olliexls2007] by 20vcq
Jul 08, 2008 (8:18 am)
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Replying to: olliexls2007 (Jul 07, 2008 4:42 pm)

Wow - what a load you are being fed by these dealers! Flat spots on tires that cause that kind of thump are no and never would be from sitting - not unless the dealer dug into his old piles of Nylon Tires he had left over from the 70's. Flat spots that cause that kind of noise are usually tires that have been braked hard and with ABS that is not really possible.When I received my new Outlander I had some vibration - the dealer asked me to go to the Good Year tire shop and have them checked out. They replaced 3 out of the 4 Eagle LS2's as defective: THREE OUT OF FOUR. There was no way they could get them to centre as the casing was warped.
Check around your rim - you will see a fine ridge on the tire - this is the centering aid. If that is not equal distance from the rim all around - that would be the starting point for any good tire guy.
As for plugging these tires - I called nmy trusted tire shop - they will not plug tires anymore without also affixing a patch and they say they would never attempt to fix a damage that was close to the sidewall under any circumstances. It would become impossible to guarantee and would be difficult to balance. jmtbw
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Re: Outlander "thump-thump-thump tire?noise [20vcq] by olliexls2007
Jul 08, 2008 (4:39 pm)
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Replying to: 20vcq (Jul 08, 2008 8:18 am)

I thought the service guy was looney,too(ns). The ridge seems equal distance from the rim on all tires. As for getting the tires plugged, 2 that were fixed (believe it or not) were while we were on vacation out of state (700+mi. from home) and on a Sunday morning...the 3rd tire that was plugged was also on a Sunday but only 20 mi. from home but I still had to be to work the next AM so I went with the old "plug-em-and-go" repair kit.
    I looked where the tires were made (Japan),,,I guess they must have a different standard for these very expensive tires than the U.S.A. I've only had tire problems 1 time before and that was approx. 8 yrs ago when I had 3 out of 4 Generals that were defective and traded up to Mics. Best choice ever back then.
Thanks for your input. I will print out your message and show it to the rookie service guy.
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Re: Outlander "thump-thump-thump tire?noise [20vcq] by steve_ HOST
Jul 08, 2008 (6:12 pm)
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Replying to: 20vcq (Jul 08, 2008 8:18 am)

I always heard that tires on new cars are over-inflated by the factory to prevent flat-spotting while the cars are in transit and sitting around the dealer lots.
 
There's more at the TireRack:
 
Tire Flatspotting
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Re: Outlander "thump-thump-thump tire?noise [steve_] by toomanyfumes
Jul 09, 2008 (6:07 am)
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Replying to: steve_ (Jul 08, 2008 6:12 pm)

People on these boards have mentioned the tires being over-inflated for shipping. Mine had about 44 Psi each when I bought the car.
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Re: Outlander "thump-thump-thump tire?noise [steve_] by olliexls2007
Jul 09, 2008 (8:13 am)
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Replying to: steve_ (Jul 08, 2008 6:12 pm)

The mfg date on my GG XLS was Oct 2006. I bought it "new" in Sept 2007. After a couple days the tire indicator lite up. There was 18lbs in 1 tire and not more than 25 in the others.
   The THUMP only developed after approx 18500 miles AND only as I drove away from the dealer after nitrogen was put in the tires.
   So...it did sit w/low pressure for a while but no problem until "NITRO"..hummmmm.. any ideas?
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Re: Outlander "thump-thump-thump tire?noise [olliexls2007] by steve_ HOST
Jul 09, 2008 (8:46 am)
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Replying to: olliexls2007 (Jul 09, 2008 8:13 am)

I don't think the nitrogen should have made any difference. Maybe they completely deflated the tires to purge the "regular" air and they shifted on the rims and messed up the balancing?
 
Try the Tires, tires, tires discussion too.
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Re: Outlander "thump-thump-thump tire?noise [olliexls2007] by 20vcq
Jul 09, 2008 (10:01 am)
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Replying to: olliexls2007 (Jul 09, 2008 8:13 am)

I'd take it to the tire store that sells the tires you are using and not the dealer. Tires arn't a specialty of the level of "technician" a dealer would assign to that level of job - most likely an apprentice at less $$.
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Re: Outlander "thump-thump-thump tire?noise [olliexls2007] by comem47
Jul 09, 2008 (10:08 am)
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Replying to: olliexls2007 (Jul 09, 2008 8:13 am)

Tires is one thing when it comes to quality "your mileage may vary" tremendously.
 
I've found over the years I've not done very well on Goodyear OEM stock tires.
Seems when they get a number of miles on them they begin to make "whup whup" sounds. I had 2 Dodges (Dakota and Durango) that came with Wranglers as the OEM tires. When the miles piled on, but long before the tread wore out, we got vibrations that were very annoying. I consulted the Tirerack surveys and saw the Goodyears ranked as crap and went for the very high ranking Michelins . Both vehicles have had the Michelins and SEARS by Michelin equivalent tires when it came time for replacement since(in both variations of tread aggression) and we really got what we paid for with mileage, snow traction and quietness. You say the sidewall has been punctured. I think I'd chalk it up as an opportunity to negotiate with Goodyear for credit for better ranked tires (as shown on TireRack surveys).
The Tripletread having a good rating for example for a Goodyear tire) or go to another brand. (The Goodyear LS has a pretty poor ranking when you consult the TireRack survey). I don't know if the belts shift or what the technical reason is, but I'd be thinking of moving forward to something better (As you drive on quieter, but better traction rubber you will wonder why you waited so long to move on to a better tire)
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Re: Outlander "thump-thump-thump tire?noise [steve_] by olliexls2007
Jul 09, 2008 (7:23 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Jul 09, 2008 8:46 am)

A few days after the nitro "injection" I took "Ollie" to a Tires Plus store and they took all the wheels off and balanced and rotated the tires for me as I'm a regular customer there I trust them a lot. Wheels/tires were checked for balance and out of round,etc,etc. They found nothing that would cause the THUMP.
 
I looked the rim,etc and all seem to be seated properly. Big day is Friday for them to fix the problem. Maybe I will have THEM send me to a different tire store and see if they can find the problem. I don't see how it could be a coincidence that the sound started immediately after I drove off the service area. I don't know how a tire could have a belt go at that instant when everything was fine before I took it in.
Could have happened but very strange..but then....I had my Spyder GT in for an oil change and they couldn't start the car...told me the battery went dead!!hmmmmm again,eh? PS I got stuck w/a $150 Mitsubishi battery as the had me by the you know what's..

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