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#118 of 127 Re: Outlander "thump-thump-thump tire?noise [solowalker] by batman47 Jul 20, 2008 (9:20 pm)
Replying to: solowalker (Jul 20, 2008 6:24 am) There are few brands that comply with the OEM tire specifications that come with the Outlander XLS V6. The tire size 225/55R18 is not appropriate for SUV with high content of off road driving. Majority of tires in this spectrum are all seasons and they usually have speed index T (118 mph) or H (130 mph). What is certain is that OEM Goodyear tire in the Outlander XLS is poor even in light snow or mud.   Yokohama YK 520 ($113 each) or the latest Yokohama AVID TRZ ($108 each: tirerack) are all seasons tires with speed index H. Toyo has the Versado LX ($166: 1010tires) with speed index T. The Michelin Primacy MXV4 ($173: tirerack) has speed index H. The entire H index has been designed for high speed vehicles with the occasional encounter with light snow, ice, mud or water. My personal opinion is that I will choose to buy a set of 4-tires Toyo Versado LX with speed index T. I think the groove pattern of this tire is more appropriate for light off road for my Outlander XLS V6.   1010tires web page gives a tire size calculator to elucidate the appropriateness of changing OEM sizes. Replies to this message: solowalker (Jul 22, 2008 7:33 pm) batman47 (Jul 25, 2008 3:26 pm) mtmsimple (Jul 31, 2008 1:03 am)
#119 of 127 Re: Outlander "thump-thump-thump tire?noise [batman47] by solowalker Jul 22, 2008 (7:33 pm)
Replying to: batman47 (Jul 20, 2008 9:20 pm) The 2007 Outlander is not included on the drop down list on 1010tires...   I think tthe Yoko yk520 or the AVID will suit me fine since I rarly encounter snow. Both tires come in sizes 225/60/18 and 235/65/18 and should work well for me on forest roads...They have excellent customer satisfaction and they are fairly inexpensive...Now, I will have to investigate to see if the TPMS will work with the higher profile tire... Replies to this message: batman47 (Jul 25, 2008 3:26 pm) mtmsimple (Jul 31, 2008 1:03 am)
#120 of 127 Re: Outlander "thump-thump-thump tire?noise [solowalker] by batman47 Jul 25, 2008 (3:26 pm)
Replying to: solowalker (Jul 22, 2008 7:33 pm) The 225/60R18 is just above (3.18%) of the recommended safety tolerance (3%) when the OEM tires sizes are replaced. 235/65R18 according to the calculations of safety (7.6%) will not be safe to drive the vehicle without endangering your life. I am not an expert in tires but this is the only guide I have and I will abide by it.   With regard to the TPMS I thought that changing the size of the tires will trigger the TPMS sensors. However when I talked with the technician in a Mitsubishi garage, he told me that the sensors only measures the inside pressure of the tires and that is the reason why the tire valves look bulky. He told me that these valves can be used several times before buying new ones (which are expensive). In all my previous vehicles every time I changed the tires the valves were also changed. Not anymore with the Outlander. He also recommended me to look for a reputable tire garage that has experience with these Mitsubishi valves. If going to any other garage without experience I must be sure to explain about the sensors and ask them to be extra careful. In summary I will say that making a reasonable change of tire size will not trigger the TPMS sensors. However, I will not be certain with this experience until I have done it and observed the change of new tires in my Outlander when the time arrives.   According to specifications the OEM Goodyear had 9 mm of tread deepness (when new), the tires now have 6 mm of tread deepness (6,000 miles) which mean that at 12,000 miles the vehicle will be ready for a change of tires. Replies to this message: mtmsimple (Jul 31, 2008 1:03 am)
#121 of 127 Re: Outlander "thump-thump-thump tire?noise [batman47] by mtmsimple Jul 31, 2008 (1:03 am)
Replying to: batman47 (Jul 25, 2008 3:26 pm) if you are afraid of the TPMS or valve problem, you can find the Orange OE replacement sensor (much cheaper than Original), it can be replaced only for valve (aluminum valve) and keeping the sensor for long time. just for your reference. try to find it from Belle Tire or US auto parts
#122 of 127 Re: Outlander "thump-thump-thump tire?noise [20vcq] by olliexls2007 Aug 07, 2008 (3:48 pm)
Replying to: 20vcq (Jul 16, 2008 10:57 am) Dear "20". I don't have 3 plugs in ONE tire. I have one plug in THREE tires. Seems I havent figured out how to get the screw into the remaining "plugless" tire.   Took it from so. FLA to Ashville and on up to the NC/VA state lines and did a lot of the Blueridge PKWY and the tires are holding up. I will wait until a little more tread is gone to replace them.. Still THUMP,THUMP,etc but not above approx. 30mph.   PS what price did you get for the Primacy's? if you don't mind me asking.... Replies to this message: gene_v (Aug 22, 2008 8:10 am) gene_v (Sep 04, 2008 10:51 am)
#123 of 127 Re: Outlander "thump-thump-thump tire?noise [olliexls2007] by gene_v Aug 22, 2008 (8:10 am)
Replying to: olliexls2007 (Aug 07, 2008 3:48 pm) I ordered Primacy's for my XLS 2 weeks ago at Costco. Checked yesterday and they called and found that they (Michelin) won't start making them until mid September. Tire Rack has them on backorder also. The tires are $200.99 a piece at Costco. (225/55-18) (Price increase on July 30 from $187) Costco has a promo on the H series tires at $60 off a set of 4. Replies to this message: gene_v (Sep 04, 2008 10:51 am)
#124 of 127 Re: Outlander "thump-thump-thump tire?noise [gene_v] by gene_v Sep 04, 2008 (10:51 am)
Replying to: gene_v (Aug 22, 2008 8:10 am) I e-mailed Michellin regarding when the Primacy's will be available. They start production September 7 producing 2240 tires. Available at distributers in 3-4 weeks. I gave a copy of the e-mail to my Costco dealer and he said he sometimes gets tires direct from the factory
#125 of 127 Re: 4wd is adequate.. [busta4] by drralph Sep 26, 2008 (9:51 am)
Replying to: busta4 (Mar 17, 2008 5:14 pm) I dont know if this helps but in my Acura, the clicking noise that took months to diagnose was an axle shaft. FWD car but worth a look.
#126 of 127 Re: Outlander "thump-thump-thump tire?noise [olliexls2007] by gene_v Sep 27, 2008 (11:19 am)
Replying to: olliexls2007 (Jul 11, 2008 5:06 pm) My local car repair station calls them "Good for a Year". Replies to this message: olliexls2007 (Nov 28, 2008 3:26 pm)
#127 of 127 Re: Outlander "thump-thump-thump tire?noise [gene_v] by olliexls2007 Nov 28, 2008 (3:26 pm)
Replying to: gene_v (Sep 27, 2008 11:19 am) This is Olliexls2007 re:thump,thump..(I am the originator of the thump-mail). I still have the Goodyears 31,000 miles. 13,000 miles of thumping.       I've checked several tire dealers & Sears & a few others will only sell me the Goodyear LS2's that came on the car as they will not guarantee anything else as that's the only tire that is listed by the mfr for the XLS.      Any body out there know what's up w/this? They are telling me that an SUV rides higher and therefore needs a stiffer sidewall than what comes on all the tires that are the same size as the OEM tires.Therefore, they will sell me other tires but will not guarantee them.

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