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Re: Outlander "thump-thump-thump tire?noise [20vcq]
by olliexls2007
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Jul 11, 2008 (5:06 pm)
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Replying to: 20vcq (Jul 09, 2008 10:01 am)
re:THUMP......took "Ollie" to dealer & was told the tires are "cupped" and that is causing the THUMP! They are NOT cupped. Have app't. w/Goodyear store tomorrow AM. Tires were "force balanced" dealer. They took off the "worse" one and looked for belt separation and didn't find anything wrong. I will have Goodyear take all off and look for defects..
PS I will not buy Goodyears for replacement as I hear nothing "GOOD" about "GOOD"YEARS.
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Re: Outlander "thump-thump-thump tire?noise [steve_]
by olliexls2007
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Jul 11, 2008 (5:18 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Jul 08, 2008 6:12 pm)
STEVE, I went to the Mit. dealer today. Had the tires "force balanced".Did no good all. Will go to Goodyear tomorrow and try to get them to remove all tires and check for belt separation,etc.
Pain in the buttocks. All I know from reading all the tire info is that the next set will not be Goodyear LS's.
PS I also had a problem w/the "clock" spring in the steering wheel going "click,click,click, while turning the sterring wheel. Had it replaced and it still did it. They took it apart and checked it today and found that it "unraveled" jsut like the original one. It is now corrected. I posted this is another message earlier and someone else had the same problem but I couldn't remember who it was.The mechanic made a boo-boo the 1st repair job.
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Re: Outlander "thump-thump-thump tire?noise [olliexls2007]
by steve_ HOST
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Jul 11, 2008 (7:08 pm)
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Replying to: olliexls2007 (Jul 11, 2008 5:18 pm)
After all that hassle, I think I'd just go back to your tire store friends and have a new set of tires put on. Original equipment tires for most makes have a pretty lousy reputation, and I didn't get much over 20,000 miles on the last set of OEM tires I had.
Thanks for the updates.
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Re: Outlander "thump-thump-thump tire?noise [steve_]
by olliexls2007
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Jul 12, 2008 (10:54 am)
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Replying to: steve_ (Jul 11, 2008 7:08 pm)
Goodyear store told me to just get new tires as I have 3 plugs in these and if the car dealer and Tires Plus couldn't find a belt separation he probably couldn't either.
The "force balancing" now does seem to have helped a bit.Yesterday I din't notice improvement but today it seems better.
I checked w/Tire Rack and settled on Goodyear Assurance ComforTred. My price including shipping and then going to Goodyear locally re:mount,balance,etc was $720. At the Goodyear store it was $1001 for exactly the same thing. I asked the manager why such a big difference and he told me that if there was a tire claim of a problem w/a tire that had to be looked at I would have to take it off and send it to Tire Rack and then pay to sip it back again and then pay to have it remounted,balanced,etc.
Do you know if this is standard proceedure or was it that I told the Gooyear guy that I couldn't see where Tire Rack(TR) had a Road Hazard(RH warantee..I look closer at my TR printouts and discovered that they do have the RH warantee.
It would be a real pain to be w/o tires if there was a problem. It seems to me that if TR has a RH warantee that it should be honored by Goodyear. Still confused
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Re: Outlander "thump-thump-thump tire?noise [olliexls2007]
by steve_ HOST
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Jul 12, 2008 (2:39 pm)
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Replying to: olliexls2007 (Jul 12, 2008 10:54 am)
I never much cared for road hazard warranty coverage since they always prorate those things and it always seemed more hassle to me than just fixing the tire or buying a new one. Of course, around these parts, Les Schwab will fix flats free. The RH warranty seems to say get the tire fixed anywhere and submit a claim.
If there's a warranty issue, the local guy would go to bat for you with the manufacturer I guess.
But for a $300 difference, you could buy a new tire and still come out about the same.
I suspect that Tire Rack could ship to your Tires Plus store too, and they may be cheaper on mounting and balancing.
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Re: Outlander "thump-thump-thump tire?noise [steve_]
by olliexls2007
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Jul 13, 2008 (6:54 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Jul 12, 2008 2:39 pm)
Thanks for all the help. Tires Plus might be a little cheaper...but,I'm sure I would get quicker service from Goodyear if I bought the tires a Goodyear store. We will be moving to western NC in 2 years & I haven't seen a Tires Plus store up there yet so I don't need to keep going to them here as I have for the last 20 yrs or so. The top of the line Goodyears will last me least 3-4 years (I hope).
Heading to the NC mtns for 2 weeks starting this Friday. I hope whatever tire(s) are going bad will last til I get back.
Over and out for now. tom
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Re: Outlander "thump-thump-thump tire?noise [olliexls2007]
by 20vcq
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Jul 16, 2008 (10:57 am)
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Replying to: olliexls2007 (Jul 13, 2008 6:54 pm)
I had some reservations about the Outlander and its directional stability. My old friends at Tires Unlimited in town here mounted a set of 215-70 16 Michelin LTX on the snow tire rims and let me run them for a week. Man what a difference. I will not nor have I for many years by a Good Year tire again. OE Good Year LS are very poor considering the list price but I notice they are "on sale" on Tire Rack for $122.00 - at that price if one drives around town and doesn't want long highway drives they might be a consideration. I am awaiting a back order for Michelin Primacy 18" for my XLS now. (By the way if you have 3 plugs in one tire - getting it to run without a thump is no small challenge) Best of luck
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Re: Outlander "thump-thump-thump tire?noise [20vcq]
by comem47
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Jul 17, 2008 (3:02 am)
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Replying to: 20vcq (Jul 16, 2008 10:57 am)
FYI all: It appears the Outlander XLS got far cheaper quality OEM tires than the Outlander LS. Doing a comparison on TireRack I find the Yokohama Geolander G033 doesn't rate too bad at all for an OEM tire. It appears the AVON Ranger TSE is the deal when replacing tires on Outlander LS (215/70SR16) It's a very close 2nd overall in ratings to the Goodyear Tripletread, but much less costly (only $78/tire vs $132/tire) and the quietest tire in the rankings while not giving up things like winter traction.
(This is in the "Highway all season" category).
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Re: Outlander "thump-thump-thump tire?noise [olliexls2007]
by batman47
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Jul 19, 2008 (4:27 pm)
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Replying to: olliexls2007 (Jul 09, 2008 8:13 am)
Yes I have had that 'noise' in an SUV a year ago. Dealer was bemused because there was not apparent cause for this phenomenon. The technician though that the wheel bearing of the rear or front wheel had gone. He even decided after talking with me to change the wheel bearing (driver side). The result of this change didn't remove the "thump-thump" noise. He was utterly embarrassed by the results and after making some calls he decided that the problem could be with the tires so he removed all the wheels from my vehicle and put brand wheels from the same car model in his showroom. He then took the car for a drive and the final result was obvious when I saw the technician coming to me with the news with a big smile. The noise had disappeared. Problem was the tires not the car.
The verdict was that something happened with the tires during its life (20K miles) and perhaps overloaded by luggage weight for such a long journey. I bought 4 new tires (Yokohama) and the problem was solved and then I sold this SUV last year.
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Re: Outlander "thump-thump-thump tire?noise [batman47]
by solowalker
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Jul 20, 2008 (6:24 am)
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Replying to: batman47 (Jul 19, 2008 4:27 pm)
that's good info batman.... On my XLS I have 2 or 3 plugs in one of my Goodyears...I have the thump...I think it is related to the plugs and/or it is a ply separation....
I think I will change out my Goodyears and go with the Yokohama YK520 97HB.....They are rated very high by customers on Discount Tire Direct....I may even go with a higher profile tire than 55 that are the OEM's....Maybe a 235/60/18 because I use alot of mountain backroads to access hiking trailheads that have alot of big rocks strewn around. I could use that little extra clearance...
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