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71 messages,  Last post on Sep 14, 2009 at 4:09 AM

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Re: replaced transmission fluid [aatherton] by xwesx
May 17, 2009 (11:41 am)
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Replying to: aatherton (May 16, 2009 5:05 pm)

if for some reason the transmission is very low on fluid, that could affect shifting.
 
That was my primary thought as well.
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HARSH SHIFTING! by wolfdoug
Jun 20, 2009 (12:19 pm)
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I have a '99 Forester that I purchased recently. Lately I find that the automatic transmission has been shifting harshly (mostly from second to third) . The trans pulls fine and downshifts O.K. too. The car doesn't have this problem always - or maybe it's less times.
 
Any advice?
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Re: replaced transmission fluid [xwesx] by wolfdoug
Jun 20, 2009 (12:25 pm)
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Replying to: xwesx (May 17, 2009 11:41 am)

The transmission is full, though I don't know when It was changed. Could old fliud do that? Also the owner's manual says to use Dextron III fluid but I see postings that say to use another type of fluid ( Castrol Transmax J ). Will that help?
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Subaru transmission won't shift by lonnys1
Jul 13, 2009 (11:21 am)
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93 Subaru Impreza automatic transmission will not shift from 1st to 2nd when cold. Will shift fine when engine warms up. What could be causing this? Fluid level is fine and no leaks.
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Re: Subaru transmission won't shift [lonnys1] by bigfrank3
Jul 14, 2009 (10:26 am)
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Replying to: lonnys1 (Jul 13, 2009 11:21 am)

While not Subaru-specific my experience is that when this occurs it is because of the trans filter needing replacing. As the filter gets "used" and partially restrictive the hydraulic pressure to initiate the shift is lacking. As the fluid gets hot it flows better through the filter. In my opinion changing the fluid and filter would be a good first step. The key to it most likely not being something else is the fact that it works fine when warmed up.
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transmission problem by frbock1
Aug 17, 2009 (2:25 pm)
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Same thing happened to me at 105k. My 4 speed auto started making noise when shifting from 2nd to 3rd.
The cure is to replace the transmission.
2004 Forester XT.
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Re: transmission problem [frbock1] by wolfdoug
Aug 17, 2009 (2:40 pm)
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Replying to: frbock1 (Aug 17, 2009 2:25 pm)

Mine's not making noise - just shifting a little hard (when cold,mostly). I will try a transmission service first. - Soon.
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Re: Subaru transmission won't shift [bigfrank3] by aatherton
Aug 19, 2009 (6:24 am)
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Replying to: bigfrank3 (Jul 14, 2009 10:26 am)

"... this occurs it is because of the trans filter needing replacing. As the filter gets "used" and partially restrictive the hydraulic pressure to initiate the shift is lacking..."
 
This does not help his 2007 Forester, but Subaru eliminated the transmission filter on the 2008 models, beginning in mid-year 2007. For 2008 they blanked off the filter opening with a wide threaded plug, and for 2009 the opening was cast closed.
 
It does seem amazing that the transmission could generate enough debris to clog the big filter and affect shifting. Now there is no filtering at all. Since the AT filter was "lifetime", perhaps there is really too little stuff to be worth filtering, too little stuff to ever clog the filter, and no real need for the filter.
 
I guess between Jiffy Lube mistaking the AT filter for the oil filter, and the shifting problems you attribute to the AT filter, Subaru decided it only caused trouble.
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Re: Subaru transmission won't shift [aatherton] by bigfrank3
Aug 19, 2009 (9:22 am)
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Replying to: aatherton (Aug 19, 2009 6:24 am)

That's interesting. I wonder if they went to an internal filter as other manufacturers? I have pulled down many trans pans (not Subaru) and every one of them had lots of crap in the bottom and on the filter/screen. They weren't all high mileage either.
 
The friction caused by clutches and bands causes a lot of stuff to sluff off into the fluid. The passages and orifices for the hydraulic fluid are quite small and it doesn't take much to cause issues. A single fiber between a check-ball and its seat would cause problems. I find it really hard to believe that they wouldn't use SOME filter somewhere, and Subaru should not be immune to the reality of wear and the issues it causes.
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Re: Subaru transmission won't shift [bigfrank3] by aatherton
Sep 14, 2009 (4:09 am)
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Replying to: bigfrank3 (Aug 19, 2009 9:22 am)

> ... I wonder if they went to an internal filter as other manufacturers?
> I have pulled down many trans pans (not Subaru) and every one of them
> had lots of crap in the bottom and on the filter/screen.
 
No doubt the Subaru transmission always has had an internal screen like other cars. But the unique discontinued external pleated paper filter was much finer.

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