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Edmunds.com 2007 Consumers' Most Wanted

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Re: How did they survey [62vetteefp]Not the Host [Mr_Shiftright] by nippononly
May 07, 2007 (11:36 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (May 07, 2007 7:53 am)

I agree, and on that note I would be interested to see a second list correlated against the first: a list of what voters actually bought/owned. I say this only because the most-wanted winners correlated so poorly with the tops of the sales charts in each category, in some cases.
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Re: How did they survey [62vetteefp]Not the Host [Mr_Shiftright] [nippononl by Mr_Shiftright HOST
May 07, 2007 (7:24 pm)
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Replying to: nippononly (May 07, 2007 11:36 am)

Bingo! I think you'll find that people who vote with their checkbooks are the ones we want to hear about. Hence my comment that sales figures are the ultimate "vote".
 
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Re: How did they survey [62vetteefp]Not the Host [Mr_Shiftright] [nippononl by gagrice
May 07, 2007 (10:17 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (May 07, 2007 7:24 pm)

How can "most wanted" be related to sales? Most people want more than they can afford. They almost always settle for second best or less.
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Re: How did they survey [62vetteefp]Not the Host [Mr_Shiftright] [nippononl by Mr_Shiftright HOST
May 08, 2007 (6:27 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (May 07, 2007 10:17 pm)

Well I see it like this: If the sales figures do not reflect the amount of desire people manifest to have for the product, then the product is priced too high. You are right, people "want" and its up to the producer to give them what they want...e.g., people want a Miata and they can usually afford it because it doesn't cost the same as a BMW Z4 but looks nearly as good and performs really well. AKA "a winner".
 
On a positive note, which I think (I hope) some of us here were also emphasizing, it's really good that people are even DESIRING some GM products for a change....
 
desire + cash = purchase
 
HOWEVER--if you can't even afford a Cobalt in today's liberal credit market, then your vote really does skew the results in a negative way.
 
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Re: How did they survey [62vetteefp]Not the Host [Mr_Shiftright] [nippononl by gagrice
May 08, 2007 (9:54 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (May 08, 2007 6:27 am)

For example. How many folks buy a Camry when they would rather have an ES350? I cannot imagine anyone buying the Camry if the ES350 was easily in their price range.
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Re: How did they survey [62vetteefp]Not the Host [Mr_Shiftright] [nippononl [gagrice] by bumpy
May 08, 2007 (10:21 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (May 08, 2007 9:54 am)

I dunno; my dad passed over the ES for an Avalon because he didn't want to spend the extra money for the 'L' badge.
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Re: How did they survey [62vetteefp]Not the Host [Mr_Shiftright] [nippononl by Mr_Shiftright HOST
May 08, 2007 (2:47 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (May 08, 2007 9:54 am)

Probably not a great example of "wishing higher", as the ES350 is not all that far away from a Camry, to be blunt about it.
 
Camry to LS460...yeah, okay....
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The key is MOST WANTED by timelord21
May 08, 2007 (7:08 pm)
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Just for reference, I drive a '95 Chrysler Concorde with 235,000 miles, and I have no plans on buying a new car any time soon.
 
I did however vote for the Most Wanted List, and in my mind this survey is about desire. What car in each category do I desire the most? Not which can I afford. Not which do I think is most practical, but which do I desire (regardless of why I desire it)!
 
That's why these results were so surprising. People found a GM minivan more desirable than a Sienna? A CTS more desirable than a BMW 3 series or Audi A4? A Saturn Sky more desirable than a Mazda MX-5? It just blows my mind.
 
Either I missed a memo somewhere, or a whole bunch of people suddenly developed a hankerin' for a slice of GM heaven when I wasn't looking.
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Re: The key is MOST WANTED [timelord21] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
May 08, 2007 (8:54 pm)
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Replying to: timelord21 (May 08, 2007 7:08 pm)

Well perhaps it's a question of having or not having the proper information. Some of us are totally immersed in "new car knowledge" and others may not have the time to accumulate information on everything that's out there or how it performs.
 
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Re: . [gagrice] by nwng
May 09, 2007 (7:30 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (May 06, 2007 10:03 pm)

most camrys sold are 4 cylinders, of course those buyers would not consider a buick or caddy for FE reasons, as well as cost of the vehicle.
 
When you ask a corolla owner like myself if I'd like to upgrade to a buick or caddy. Sure, if someone would pay the price difference and additional fuel costs. But then, many 1-2 yr old buicks are priced close to a brand new corolla. If i need to haul 4 people ALL the time and live where distant highway travel is common, I would definitely get the buick. Nothing beats the 3.8 on mile after mile of boredom.

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