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Edmunds.com 2007 Consumers' Most Wanted

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Re: . [anythngbutgm] by murphydog
May 06, 2007 (5:47 pm)
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Replying to: anythngbutgm (May 06, 2007 2:41 pm)

OK,
 
I am inclined to agree that some of the GM picks are dubious, all though I did vote for the Acadia. Thinking it will be my next car.
 
Colorado/Canyon - Just not a small truck I would buy/own. Even though the Tacoma is ugly would take it over the Colorado. Also the Frontier looks sharp and is able to rock and roll
 
GM Minivans - I have 15 mile comute in a Vanpool - in a GM van. Keep in mind this is easy HOV lanes - not stop and go, no city traffic. Sorry to say but the van is a pile of junk. More rattles and squeaks than a bed in the warm sheet motel. I know the county sells them off at 80,000 miles, but I would not take one for free at that point.
 
I would consider the new cadilacs if I were in the market. And the new Aura and Malibu look like world class cars.
 
I am please that GM seems to be turning things around in some segments. High quality from GM will also drive Toyota/Honda and others to offer great cars as well.
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What I want by jkinzel
May 06, 2007 (9:11 pm)
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How about, and I think Gary will agree, a Ford Ranger Crew cab with a diesel engine in both 2 and 4 wheel drive.
 
What I would REALLY like to see is Ford and GM get off the ethanol BS and start making truly fuel efficient cars be it diesel or what ever.
 
I’m to the point that I don’t care about frills and fluff, I’ll ride on a sled if it gets 35 to 40 MPG.
 
To give you more insight for my quest, I live in Washington State and we are second to Calif. for the highest gas prices in the nation, even higher than Hawaii. $3.45.9 a gal. for unleaded reg. as of 5/4
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Re: What I want [jkinzel] by gagrice
May 06, 2007 (9:52 pm)
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Replying to: jkinzel (May 06, 2007 9:11 pm)

You are absolutely right. I came to Edmund's almost 10 years ago trying to find out when Ford was going to offer their great crew cab Ranger with 4 cylinder diesel & 5 speed transmission. Every part of the world sells them except the mighty USA. We have too much oil and gas to worry about good mileage You are right. Gas in Hilo is under $3.25 at the most expensive stations. I filled the rental for $3.18 today. At this time I would be happy with any mid sized diesel PU truck. Even a Toyota.
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Re: . [rockylee] by gagrice
May 06, 2007 (9:56 pm)
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Replying to: rockylee (May 06, 2007 1:54 pm)

He sold lots of Toyota's. Just more after sale problems to deal with. From his position Buick is better built with few initial problems. He also did not like some of the tactics of the Toyota dealership he worked for.
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Re: . [anythngbutgm] by gagrice
May 06, 2007 (10:03 pm)
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Replying to: anythngbutgm (May 06, 2007 2:41 pm)

I was responding to those that felt Toyota was left out by some conspiracy. I would agree that most Camry & Corolla buyers would not have Buick and especially Cadillac on their car list. That is all a matter of perception. Rags like CR push a No Big 3 agenda. Some people believe CR knows what they are talking about. If CR was legitimate they would have an open forum for us to question their findings, such as the one we are currently on.
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How did they survey by 62vetteefp
May 07, 2007 (7:02 am)
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What were the questions and where was the survey taken?
 
Some here do not believe the results due to their own bias on what they feel. Perhaps a little info on the process would help.
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Re: How did they survey [62vetteefp]Not the Host by Mr_Shiftright HOST
May 07, 2007 (7:53 am)
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (May 07, 2007 7:02 am)

Ultimately, the sales figures at the end of the year, and whether they went up or down, are all that count in the automotive business. Everything else is smoke, mirrors, wishes, hopes and dreams.
 
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Re: How did they survey [62vetteefp]Not the Host [Mr_Shiftright] by user777
May 07, 2007 (8:08 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (May 07, 2007 7:53 am)

sorry shifty. i'd have to disagree.
 
you can give away a sloppily engineered, fabricated, or supported automobile / truck / widget.
 
sales figures are only one variable in a complicated equation.
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Re: . [gagrice] by rockylee
May 07, 2007 (8:45 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (May 06, 2007 9:56 pm)

Ahhhh your friend is like me and has morales. I couldn't sleep at night knowing I was being dishonest with a customer. It's in a way like stealing to me.
 
-Rocky
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Re: How did they survey [62vetteefp] by smittynyc
May 07, 2007 (9:16 am)
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (May 07, 2007 7:02 am)

I'd also like a little more information about methodology, if possible.
 
I have to say I am somewhat surprised to see many of the same posters who have disputed the accuracy of CR's Reliabilty Survey (with its 1.3 million unique respondents) not have the same types of questions about the Most Wanted survey.

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