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Nissan Murano, Bugatti, Transmission, SUV
Apr 24, 2010 (10:54 am)
I everyone, listen some poster by the name of madpistol posted this on the Altima CVT forum and I thought it made a lot of sense in explaining why a lot of 1st Gen Murano owners are having so much trouble with transmission issues and failures. I'm not saying Nissan should be off the hook, they most certainly shouldn't. but I found it insightful about where the CVT started and where it is going and explaining why some people are experiencing lags or jerkiness at times. I personally, in my 2010 Max have not experience this yet, but I only have 7k miles so I have no idea if it will ever happen or if it will, not yet anyway.
"However, I do get some jerkiness at speeds under 40mph. My guess is it's just because the CVT has a limited number of set ratios at lower RPMs. I know it's the CVT "shift-logic" because if you move it over to manual mode and shift it that way, the engine is very smooth and pretty refined feeling. There's absolutely no jerking in manual mode other than what you feel when you shift between ratios.
(Now enter theory stuff)
I believe that with the next generation of Altima we'll see both engines get significantly redesigned. Now that Nissan has established that CVT-based vehicles are what they wish to pursue, I think they're going to start designing their engines around this. As of right now, they're currently designing the CVT to be compatible with their chosen engines. However, if you design the ENGINE to also be compatible with the CVT, the refinement will reach a whole new level.
The current engines are very content with a manual gearbox, but a little sluggish with the CVT. That's because the engines aren't designed to take advantage of a CVT's gearless system. In other words, the engines have very specific power bands, and thus, it only feels energetic when the engine is in that power band. I believe we're going to see more torque and horsepower from lower RPMs and the peak will be far lower in the rev-band as well. That way, cars will feel much more energetic from a stop AND there won't be a "flat line" on power between 2000-3000RPMs (in the 4-cyl). This should also eliminate jerkiness from the lower revs, as the CVT won't have to shift as much to keep the power up.
1st generation CVT: high rev acceleration, rubber-band feeling
2nd (current) generation CVT: smoother acceleration, higher horsepower engines
3rd (future) generation CVT: engines designed for CVT, MUCH quicker acceleration, more linear power delivery.
This is only speculation, but if you're a fan of CVT based Nissan cars, I think it's about to get a lot better in the 3rd generation. The first 2 generations were test beds to see if it would work. Now that Nissan knows it works (and is selling well) they should invest a lot more in their powerplants this time around. Only time will tell though. "
#472 of 709 Re: Nissan Murno CVT [dsfinger]
May 03, 2010 (12:17 pm)
Consumer Report's staff are seriously a bunch of idiots.
Their testing methods and statistical data gathering are a joke.
I do not rely on anything they say. You are better off consulting Car & Driver or Motor Trend.
CP has always about political correctness not accurate reporting.
#473 of 709 Re: Nissan Murno CVT [mikesmurano]
May 03, 2010 (5:16 pm)
CR, JD Power, and even MT are no good anymore for reviews and unbias ratings/comparison assessments. When MT can rate the Camry #1 above the new Sonata, Fusion, and Altima for overall fun, driving dynamics, and overall package, etc, after all the recent recalls and safety problems with those cars, they must be either bias for Toyota or smoking some serious dope. I'm seriously thinking of canceling my subscription at the end of this next cycle.
As the years are going on, its getting harder and harder to find magazines or professional car forum that doesn't have bias in its assessments.
Right now, edmunds, autoblog, C&D, Road and Track, and Popular Mechanics are probably your only bets left for fair and balanced/unbias comparisons and reviews.
May 04, 2010 (1:56 pm)
I'm finally turning off my tracking for this issue. Nissan did reimburse me for the cost of my transmission at 68k miles in my '05 Murano (which went out 2 yrs ago). My dealer acknowleged the problem back then and I only paid half of the $5,800 cost. So, I was fully reimbursed and I used the money to put down on a 2010 GMC Acadia. Decided to buy American this time. Wish me luck!
#475 of 709 Re: Where's JD Power now that I've owned my Murano for a year and a half? [kellyd7]
May 17, 2010 (12:59 pm)
May I ask, how much was the repair for your windshield wiper motor? My driver side one occasionally stops working and now, last friday, stopped all together. Super annoying. Taking it to the dealership but I don't really want to get railed so I'm looking for an average price.
#476 of 709 Re: 2003 Murano Transmission problem [warelf]
May 18, 2010 (6:02 pm)
I just bought a used 2003 Murano, and it's doing the same thing. It didn't do it during the test drive but it's done it ever since i purchased it.
#477 of 709 Re: 2003 murano transmission [mikey69]
May 19, 2010 (8:36 am)
They are lying,
I (We), ___________________________________________________________________________ , hereby submit this form requesting
reimbursement for expenses incurred in connection with repair or replacement and/or related towing of the CVT on
my model year 2003–2010 Nissan. I certify that these repairs have been made to this vehicle and that they were
not previously paid for, in whole or in part, by Nissan
May 24, 2010 (11:15 pm)
I have a 2000 Nisson Serena with a CVT. It gets stuck in low when in slow or stop and go traffic. It will not dissengage unless i stop and turn off the van for 20 minutes. It also slips into as high ratio after going up inclines, almost like an anti-slip mode. Whats wrong and can it be easily fixed?
#479 of 709 Re: CVT Problems [epacheco]
May 25, 2010 (7:12 am)
Donate it: www.kars4kids.org
And get another brand of car
#480 of 709 Murano CVT transmission
Jun 01, 2010 (10:00 am)
Last week my 2006 Murano stopped in the middle of the road. I managed to push it off the road and get it towed to the dealer. I am on 104,000 miles but Nissan customer service confirmed that I was covered for the extended warranty for all CVT issues. It turns out that the problem is the CVT. But now the dealership it telling me that the oil in the CVT is not the "red" "Nissan" oil but some other oil, Well I have no idea what oil is in there as I never change it myself, so of course I am seeking an answer from my previous servicers, but that is not the issue here. The issue is Nissan are not able to tell me that the failure of the CVT was caused by the oil, but they are using it to get out of a warranty repair of a "known" problem. Any ideas??