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#465 of 709 Nissan Murno CVT
Apr 23, 2010 (12:22 pm)
Everybody is on Toyota’s case. Yes they made few mistakes here and there, but they are trying to fix it.
What you think about Nissan? Everything is “OK”. They did not announce that Nissan Murano 2003-2010 has a problem. They decided to do it slick way. Send each owner of Murano a letter stating if you had a problem with CVT transmission go on line print a form(the name of the form is (Nissan CVT Customer Satisfaction Program Reimbursement Request Form) send it to us and prove of repair we will reimburse you for amount you spent. Slick is in it? And then the game begins. You send them form all documents needed but they ask for more documents and if you send everything what was asked, they will find the reason not to pay for repairs.
In my case I almost got into the accident, my car stop in the middle of the road because all transmission fluid leaked out, thanks to the CVT part. How come Toyota is all over the news and Nissan is not?.
#466 of 709 Re: Nissan Murno CVT [mikev4]
Apr 23, 2010 (2:17 pm)
Are their 09 and 10 owners having transmission troubles? I haven't heard anyone with the new Murano complaining of transmission troubles. I thought the CVT problems were confined right now to the 03-07 1st Gen?
#467 of 709 Re: Nissan Murno CVT [smarty666]
Apr 23, 2010 (5:56 pm)
There are some 2009 owners that have some CVT problems reported - pretty serious actually-but most of them had earlier production run vehicles ( the 2009 muranos ha d start build date in october/nov 2007 actually. I havent seen any 2010 CVT problems yet. Would think thice about an AWD though. Transfer case issues are somewhat common. ( leaks at the junction of the transfer case and the transmission)
#468 of 709 Re: Nissan Murno CVT [mikev4]
Apr 24, 2010 (4:57 am)
I don't get it either! Nissan has been very good about keeping this out of the news. They have got to be so relieved to see the heat going in the direction of Toyota right now. I filled out the form for Consumer Reports telling them about all of the problems I had with my '05 Nissan. But when the new Buying Guide came out they still list it as a great used car to buy with a great transmission. It just doesn't make sense . . . at all! I sold my car a few months ago and lost SO MUCH MONEY on it. I drove it to a local Nissan dealership to talk to them about all of the problems. They were shocked to know I had problems with my transmission - "never heard about any such thing before". Told me to bring my car to CARMAX, sell it and they'd give me a great deal on a new one. THEY DIDN'T EVEN WANT IT!
#469 of 709 CVT through the years - Murano
Apr 24, 2010 (7:35 am)
Actually the problem rate on the 2007 model year - the last year of the 1st generation model murano - was very low. There were a large number of technical service bulletins and a few recalls , particularly on the 2003 and 2004 model years, that caused good changes over time -- so the 2007 year was actually a good one as far as repairs and problems. 2009 was a first year new model, but I think a lot of those bugs have been worked out since the 2009s went into production, which was actually in late 2007 of all things. So 2010 is a good model year for Nissan on the Murano so far, and their third generation murano, due out in 2012, probably will be a major winner.
#470 of 709 Re: Nissan Murno CVT [dsfinger]
Apr 24, 2010 (10:16 am)
I do not think we should let them off the hook. I will display my message on all the sites I will have an assess to.
Apr 24, 2010 (10:54 am)
I everyone, listen some poster by the name of madpistol posted this on the Altima CVT forum and I thought it made a lot of sense in explaining why a lot of 1st Gen Murano owners are having so much trouble with transmission issues and failures. I'm not saying Nissan should be off the hook, they most certainly shouldn't. but I found it insightful about where the CVT started and where it is going and explaining why some people are experiencing lags or jerkiness at times. I personally, in my 2010 Max have not experience this yet, but I only have 7k miles so I have no idea if it will ever happen or if it will, not yet anyway.
"However, I do get some jerkiness at speeds under 40mph. My guess is it's just because the CVT has a limited number of set ratios at lower RPMs. I know it's the CVT "shift-logic" because if you move it over to manual mode and shift it that way, the engine is very smooth and pretty refined feeling. There's absolutely no jerking in manual mode other than what you feel when you shift between ratios.
(Now enter theory stuff)
I believe that with the next generation of Altima we'll see both engines get significantly redesigned. Now that Nissan has established that CVT-based vehicles are what they wish to pursue, I think they're going to start designing their engines around this. As of right now, they're currently designing the CVT to be compatible with their chosen engines. However, if you design the ENGINE to also be compatible with the CVT, the refinement will reach a whole new level.
The current engines are very content with a manual gearbox, but a little sluggish with the CVT. That's because the engines aren't designed to take advantage of a CVT's gearless system. In other words, the engines have very specific power bands, and thus, it only feels energetic when the engine is in that power band. I believe we're going to see more torque and horsepower from lower RPMs and the peak will be far lower in the rev-band as well. That way, cars will feel much more energetic from a stop AND there won't be a "flat line" on power between 2000-3000RPMs (in the 4-cyl). This should also eliminate jerkiness from the lower revs, as the CVT won't have to shift as much to keep the power up.
1st generation CVT: high rev acceleration, rubber-band feeling
2nd (current) generation CVT: smoother acceleration, higher horsepower engines
3rd (future) generation CVT: engines designed for CVT, MUCH quicker acceleration, more linear power delivery.
This is only speculation, but if you're a fan of CVT based Nissan cars, I think it's about to get a lot better in the 3rd generation. The first 2 generations were test beds to see if it would work. Now that Nissan knows it works (and is selling well) they should invest a lot more in their powerplants this time around. Only time will tell though. "
#472 of 709 Re: Nissan Murno CVT [dsfinger]
May 03, 2010 (12:17 pm)
Consumer Report's staff are seriously a bunch of idiots.
Their testing methods and statistical data gathering are a joke.
I do not rely on anything they say. You are better off consulting Car & Driver or Motor Trend.
CP has always about political correctness not accurate reporting.
#473 of 709 Re: Nissan Murno CVT [mikesmurano]
May 03, 2010 (5:16 pm)
CR, JD Power, and even MT are no good anymore for reviews and unbias ratings/comparison assessments. When MT can rate the Camry #1 above the new Sonata, Fusion, and Altima for overall fun, driving dynamics, and overall package, etc, after all the recent recalls and safety problems with those cars, they must be either bias for Toyota or smoking some serious dope. I'm seriously thinking of canceling my subscription at the end of this next cycle.
As the years are going on, its getting harder and harder to find magazines or professional car forum that doesn't have bias in its assessments.
Right now, edmunds, autoblog, C&D, Road and Track, and Popular Mechanics are probably your only bets left for fair and balanced/unbias comparisons and reviews.
May 04, 2010 (1:56 pm)
I'm finally turning off my tracking for this issue. Nissan did reimburse me for the cost of my transmission at 68k miles in my '05 Murano (which went out 2 yrs ago). My dealer acknowleged the problem back then and I only paid half of the $5,800 cost. So, I was fully reimbursed and I used the money to put down on a 2010 GMC Acadia. Decided to buy American this time. Wish me luck!