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#123 of 172 Re: 2008 will look like this for me......... [british_rover]
by alltorque
Sep 04, 2007 (2:51 pm)
Amen. Saab and Luxury are two words you never see in the same sentence.
Don't discount Rolls Royce. The current Phantom is one phenomenal car in all respects. Don't let all the bling associations colour your judgement. Leaves Cadillac in the weeds and the only debate is whether RR or Maybach takes top spot. No definitive answer - all down to personal taste. Then again, current Bentleys are up in the top 5 too.
#124 of 172 Re: 2008 will look like this for me......... [british_rover]
by rockylee
Sep 24, 2007 (7:41 am)
Okay my list looks like this presently british_rover !!!!
#1 Cadillac
#2 Saab
#3 Acura
#4 Lexus
#5 Volvo
#6 Lincoln
#7 Mercedes
#8 Audi
#9 BMW
#10 Buick, oops I mean Infiniti, British.
-Rocky
#125 of 172 Re: 2008 will look like this for me......... [rockylee]
by british_rover
Sep 24, 2007 (8:10 am)
Still completely insane.
SAAB doesn't belong on the list with their current line up. Since we are talking Luxury not ultra luxury I will leave out Rolls, Bentley etc.
#1 Mercedes: Even with the stumbles they have had in the recent past Mercedes still has the most complete luxury lineup.
#2 BMW: And it is a very close second. If this list had more of an emphasis on sport over Luxury I would put BMW first.
#3 Lexus: Line up is not as complete as the two german heavy weights and their SUVs are well behind in technology compared to the Germans. Reliability is better then other but that is not the be all and end all for a Luxury mark.
#4 Audi: Line up is filling out and should rival Mercedes soon but still not as high end as either Merc or BMW. Reliability probably the worst of the Germans as well and drive train design for most cars means engine hangs well in front of the axle.
#5 Tie between Acura and Infiniti: Infiniti has the more complete line up but styling is awkward for some cars and interior are sub-par IMO. Great driving dynamics for cars but QX56 is a poor job of rebadging. Acura has some pretty good styling except for new MDX and interiors are very good vs. the rest of the class. But still hung up on FWD platforms which won't cut it at this level.
After that it gets too hard but SAAB and Lincoln are no where near the top six.
Caddy is probably number 7 and Volvo I think takes the 8th spot.
#126 of 172 Re: 2008 will look like this for me......... [british_rover]
by rockylee
Sep 24, 2007 (8:15 am)
My top 6 was factoring in price/value. Sure if money is no object my list would look a little more like yours but BMW, sure wouldn't be as high as you have em.
-Rocky
#127 of 172 Reasons to choose MBZ over BMW as your luxury car of choice?
by theinric
Dec 05, 2007 (2:59 am)
What reasons would you cite to choose Mercedes over BMW as your luxury car of choice? I chose a CLS500 over BMW but am interested in others' reasons.
#128 of 172 Re: top 6 [sservice]
by boaz47
Dec 05, 2007 (12:44 pm)
1.Aston Martin
2.Bentley
3.Bugatti
4.Ferrari
5.Maserati
6.Rolls-Royce
I am not sure British rover would completely agree but that is a pretty good list. Luxury is defined by excess and not many other vehicles listed earlier apply. Luxury goes with fame and power. It goes with history and comfort for comfort sake with no compromises.
When tend to transpose words for advertising purposes even when they don't apply. We have redefined sports car to be any number of sporty cars. We have redefined Luxury car to any number of standard vehicles with some upgrades. Putting more leather in a car to call it a luxury car is simply not the same as designing one from the ground up to exude opulence.
A grand house is a grand house it is not Buckingham palace or Château de Versailles. It isn't that the grand house someone built isn't nice or better built. It is simply that it is not a Palace. It isn't that MB, BMW or even Lexus aren't nice comfortable cars. They are simply not uncompromising luxury cars.
Dec 12, 2007 (11:20 pm)
My top luxury brands:
1. Bentley
2. Rolls Royce
3. Maseratti
4. Aston Martin
5. Maybach
Everyday top 10:
1. Mercedes
2. Lexus
3. Audi
4. BMW
5. Caddy (only because the list asks for 5 so it's a distant 5. Not on the level of the 4 preceeding it.)
#130 of 172 My top 6 - better late than never!
by jgordo
Feb 27, 2008 (5:17 pm)
Wow, the top six luxury car brands. Hmm. There is room for debate, but you have to eliminate the GT class or sports cars (like Aston Martin). Also, luxury means, well, luxury, even over handling and performance. That being said, here they are:
1. Rolls Royce (need we say more?)
2. Maserati (the Quattroporte is the real deal)
3. Lexus (they put stuff on the LS I haven't even thought of yet)
4. Mercedes Benz (The big body AMG sedans are just awesome)
5. BMW - The big 7 series is still a luxury statement
6. Jaguar (The interior is still carrying the load)
Sorry, but Saab and Buick are still on the outside looking in. I considered Cadillac for the 6th spot, but the Jag still has that look and feel of a world class luxury sedan. Yes, Bentley is an option, but I dealt with that with RR at num. 1. To me, Bentley is a performance version of the luxurious RR.
#131 of 172 Top Three - No Contest (???)
by alltorque
Mar 04, 2008 (9:38 am)
Top three have to be :
Rolls Royce
Maybach
Bentley
Order will depend on your own tastes. All rest follow on behind those three. Mercedes should be there but their recent lack of build quality and reliability keeps them out and stops there being a genuine Top 4. However, I think they'll be back, (AMG and Brabus versions don't count. it's actually saying; "I bought a wonderful Mercedes. It's so good that I paid extra for AMG to finish it properly").
Anyone who decries any of the top three obviously has no idea what they actually do as cars - not just as wealth-signifiers.
Just a view from the big island off the coast of Europe.
#132 of 172 Isn't Maybach...
by lemko
Mar 04, 2008 (10:52 am)
...all but finished? I didn't see one displayed at the Philadelphia Auto Show this year.