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Re: 2006 - 7 Sonata Air Quality Control System [whisper1]
by skeeter6
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Jul 24, 2007 (6:27 am)
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Replying to: whisper1 (Jul 24, 2007 6:14 am)
Then why at times will the AQS not go to recirculation when diesel fumes enter the cabin and are so strong we have to manually switch. My wife is chronic asmatic and the concept of the AQS was the determining factor in our purchase of the sonata
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- #21 of 64
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Re: Automatic climate control [whisper1]
by craigbrooks
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Jul 24, 2007 (1:43 pm)
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Replying to: whisper1 (Jul 23, 2007 5:56 am)
"If the Auto knob is pushed, the LCD displays "AUTO". Fan speed, recirculation, AC are controlled automatically. Activate any of these controls forces only that control to operate in manual mode. Ex: with LCD shown "AUTO", AC is ON as needed. Push the AC button, AC is always ON; push it again, AC is always OFF. "
Now that sounds easy. Where was I?
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Re: 2006 - 7 Sonata Air Quality Control System [skeeter6]
by targettuning
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Jul 25, 2007 (8:25 am)
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Replying to: skeeter6 (Jul 23, 2007 5:07 pm)
I guess I will preface my comments with the following facts:
1. I don't currently own a Sonata with this feature.
2.I don't really know how it actually functions (from a technical standpoint) so I don't know what "triggers" it to automatically use recirculate mode. I am assuming it is some type of sensor but what exactly does this sensor have to sense??? What components in "smog" or exhaust gasses does it need to see?
If yours seems to have worked automatically for a long time frame I guess it does work. So, with these provisions out of the way my comments then:
You don't see any discussion of this feature because it isn't of great concern to most who post here. It either works unobserved or doesn't and most don't care.
I understand your special circumstances (wifes illness or circumstance) but guess what...cars have had (for years and years)a switch or button that can switch between recirculated air and outside air. If you detect something she doesn't like in the form of an odor or particular substance simply reach over and manually make the change to recirculate then when the crisis passes change back to fresh or outside air. Problem solved WITHOUT yet another lawsuit or arbitration trail. Yeah, I understand because Hyundai states it (this feature) exists it should work but whatever sensor drives the system apparently isn't ready for prime time. For my part this feature would be one of those "nice but never used" things like "Shiftronic". Admittedly none in our family has a breathing problem but I have NEVER switched to recirculate mode on ANY of our AC equipped cars for any reason.
As for the "gas sloshing" problem?? I personally feel you are much too picky and much too quick to file legal recourse for non-problems (in the case of gas slosh) to minor annoyances (auto recirculate) in as much as this can be accomplishes manually.
This is simply my take on your commentary. In the meantime I will try to educate myself on how this system works.
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- #23 of 64
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Re: 2006 - 7 Sonata Air Quality Control System [targettuning]
by craigbrooks
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Jul 25, 2007 (8:18 pm)
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Replying to: targettuning (Jul 25, 2007 8:25 am)
Wow...I didn't read all of skeeters post. LEGAL recourse over a sloshing gas tank? C'mon it only sloshes during the first 1/4. Like the transmission shift lag from 1st to 2nd (oh no another thing for the AG) I hardly notice it all anymore. As a matter of fact I just filled up yesterday and have not heard the sloshing.
There are better things for you and our legal system to tackle than this. If it really does bother you that much trade it in and buy another car. No offense intended.
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Re: 2006 - 7 Sonata Air Quality Control System [craigbrooks]
by targettuning
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Jul 26, 2007 (5:09 am)
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Replying to: craigbrooks (Jul 25, 2007 8:18 pm)
He (skeeter) stated that he is preparing a complaint to file with his states attorney general's office concerning both the "slosh" issue and the malfunctioning of the auto-recirculate feature. Additionally, he is engaged in arbitration with Hyundai over the same issues...or maybe only the auto-recirculate.
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Re: 2006 - 7 Sonata Air Quality Control System [targettuning]
by skeeter6
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Jul 26, 2007 (10:54 am)
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Replying to: targettuning (Jul 25, 2007 8:25 am)
The air quality sensor functions just like your smoke detector in your house When you pay a premium price for a vehicle most people would expect all systems to operate as described in the sales pitch. In the 65+ years I have been driving I have never heard gas sloshing and I have had some real dogs! Filing for arbritation under the BBB autoline does not tie up the courts and is not binding Also filing a complaint with any state AG does not involve the court systems unless the AG find merit in the complaint Since Hyundai will not even explain to my dealer why the system in my 2006 and the 2007 models do not function as described they are supportive my challenging Hyundai to force them to give reasonable explanations and not just say "its normal" My Sonata runs very good "no lag between 1st & 2nd" and gets 30+ mpg on the highway with a/c at 70+mph for those of you that have shift lag why don't you bite the bullet and complain. The Hyundai Sonata is basically a good vehicle however I am amazed how you people turn your back on issues as tho you are afraid of Hyundai. I now realaize it is a waste of my time discussing issues on this forum.
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Re: 2006 - 7 Sonata Air Quality Control System [skeeter6]
by mumin
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Jul 26, 2007 (1:20 pm)
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Replying to: skeeter6 (Jul 26, 2007 10:54 am)
" The Hyundai Sonata is basically a good vehicle however I am amazed how you people turn your back on issues as tho you are afraid of Hyundai"
Skeeter, I'm with you on that and I totally agree with you.
"I now realaize it is a waste of my time discussing issues on this forum"
Well, it's not. You have a very valid point and you should not worry about other's opinions. They're entitled to it, aren't they? Although I do have a gas sloshing problem, it doesn't bother me too much. It doesn't change the fact thought the problem should be addressed by Hyundai's engineering stuff. If not, the legal way is the only road to go. It's not NORMAL to have a car with the gas sloshing problem. Especially a new one. Your fight is not a lost case. I'd be glad to join you , if need be.
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Re: 2006 - 7 Sonata Air Quality Control System [skeeter6]
by ctc1
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Jul 26, 2007 (5:48 pm)
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Replying to: skeeter6 (Jul 26, 2007 10:54 am)
I agree with you if system worked well at first and now it doesn't then it is broken and should be repaired. the shame is on Hyundai for saying this is normal. Sometimes no matter how distasteful, litigation is a nesassary evil. Good luck
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Re: 2006 - 7 Sonata Air Quality Control System [skeeter6]
by targettuning
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Jul 27, 2007 (5:06 am)
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Replying to: skeeter6 (Jul 26, 2007 10:54 am)
First, and foremost just because you may get opposing points of view on an open public forum like this it does NOT mean that it is a waste of time posting...everybody does not and never will agree with you. I personally do not agree with regard to the "gas slosh" issue. This has been discussed very much here and while it may bother you others have stated that it is a minor annoyance and only happens at certain fuel levels (I can't recall if it is mostly empty mostly full or 1/2 tank). If the "slosh" issue it as widespread as may be indicated then I agree Hyundai needs to baffle its tank more effectively but that is an engineering change that may be incorporated at some point down the road...or not. Once again this is my opinion but as to your paying "a premium price" for a Hyundai Sonata LX well I guess but it isn't a $45,000 BMW either so the term "premium" is open to interpretation too. But I do agree that whatever features are available should work and I am with you on this one. In summary: it seems as though you are generally pleased with your Sonata so keep working with...not against...Hyundai on the auto-recirculate issue and I am sure you will get it fixed. Hyundai appears pretty good at customer satisfaction from my experience. Better than some at the least.
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