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Replying to: gagrice (Nov 28, 2007 7:50 pm) You got that right brother. At the 10K premium that will indeed be a limited run. At today's fuel prices ($3.20 per gallon) you could buy OVER FOUR YEARS worth of petrol assuming you drive 15K per year. That covers a lot of miles of driving on just the price premium alone. I think right from the beginning GM started planning this thing as a promotional project more than a serious vehicle. They HAD to know the economics of this thing just don't make sense. It must be tech that is just WAY expensive, and that is why it isn't being planned for the lambda platform vehicles - I am making this assumption here because GM has been mute over any such plans, and they have talked up all their big developments recently. |
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Replying to: tourguide (Nov 29, 2007 3:10 pm) GM and Chrysler both have known that hybrids are poor economic choices. That is the reason Chrysler scrapped their hybrid long before Toyota even thought of building one. Toyota with their deep pockets decided it was worth the loss to get the green image. It has paid off. They may even be making a profit on the Prius. We will never know as that is privileged information. Toyota was also pushed by the Japanese government to build hybrids. Not sure the subsidies provided by their government.
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Apparently - Chevy has a major problem with its doors and locks. My 2007 Chevy Tahoe car was broken into the day after Thanksgiving. The police told me it is very easy for a thief to slip a screwdriver under the door handle and pop the lock. This disengages the alarm also. That easy. They do damage to the door handle, door, lock and it costs about $1500 to $1800 to fix. The police say Chevy vehicles are the worst. They say there is an after market product that does better. But who is going to buy a new car and then spend money for a new locking system! I can't believe that in 2007 - Chevy can not make a better locking system than this. At least make it so the alarm is not disengaged also.... So word to the wise - DO NOT LEAVE ANYTHING VALUABLE IN VIEW!!!!!! |
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Replying to: gagrice (Nov 30, 2007 8:11 am) It appears they are determined to make a profit on the Hylander Hybrid too as that model saw a massive price bump this year, but at least the HH comes MAXED out option wise for what you START paying in the Tahoe Hybrid. It is a shame too, I test drove the HH and I really liked it, but when I priced it out, I got the blues. 
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Replying to: tourguide (Nov 30, 2007 6:46 pm) |
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Replying to: tourguide (Nov 29, 2007 3:10 pm) Where did hear this from?? I did some research and the TDI from Audi has been shipping for a year now in Europe. I've looked at some of the international forums and I haven't seen very many complaints from them. Actually many compliments. Only caveat is that Audi will not introduce the TDI for the Q7 here in the states until next year. Tahoe Hybrid, yep it's a upscale man's green mobile. I was at the auto show in LA I sort of gave them an ear full on their pricing and model strategy. The vehicle is now listed here at this website. It looks like they lowered their prices by a grand from their initial pricing announcement. That is the reason Chrysler scrapped their hybrid long before Toyota even thought of building one. I talked to Chrysler at the auto show, they are delaying their hybrid intro till next year. They had a Hybrid Aspen with a boat attached there. It looked nice. Chrysler was just recently bought out by a private equity firm, so, I suspect changes in priorities and personel may have cause the delay.
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Replying to: galvang (Dec 02, 2007 2:27 pm) I made the original comment, based on VW in general, which in my experience tend to have quality problems. They do drive well when they are tuned up and in working order though.
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Replying to: tourguide (Nov 29, 2007 3:10 pm) It must be tech that is just WAY expensive, and that is why it isn't being planned for the lambda platform vehicles - I am making this assumption here because GM has been mute over any such plans, and they have talked up all their big developments recently. When GM announced the pricing for their new hybrid SUVs I was shocked also. But I will admit that I missed this subtle nuance in their strategy, gagrice will appreciate it. Yes it appears that there is a $10000 price premium for this over a 'standard' Tahoe/Yukon but in fact it's only about $2000-$3000!!! Surprising, isn't it? 'How can this be?', you ask. This initial launch of the 2-Modes is not intended for the general public. It doesn't matter what the price is, OK a little. This vehicle is not intended for Mr/Mrs Middle America. It is intended for the select few that GM wants to own it. These would be loyal well-to-do GM customers who will spread the good word about the hybrid. These would be GM owners who might be in the media spotlight, Rush Limbaugh for example, who will promote the benefits of GM's system in the top of the line hybrid. These would be well-to-do Tahoe/Yukon/Escalade buyers who were expecting to pay upwards of $50-$65K for their SUV whether it was a hybrid or not. This vehicle is going to have a limited production of about 10000 during the first year and it's reported to be sold only in limited areas from a central inventory probably somewhere in Michigan. IOW apply to GM to purchase one of these and they will decided if you will be allowed to get one. I don't know about you but I don't think I'd have the 'clout' to be approved. Oh for those that do buy one...they will end up spending LESS money over the life of the vehicle than if they had purchased the non-hybrid luxury trim of the Tahoe/Yukon/Escalade. Now in 2-3 yrs after these have proven themselves you likely will see a $39000 hybrid base model Tahoe vs a $35000 ICE. Now that will make sense for some families. |
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Replying to: stevedebi (Dec 03, 2007 12:08 pm) Well, after further review, I did found some engine failures with the Q7 3.6L gas engines. Strange, because consumer reports rated the 3.6L Q7 as "above average" for reliability and "worse than average" for the 4.2L V8. For the Yukon/Tahoe XL it was rated "worse than average". Generally, I tend to agree with your statement that build quality of some Euro manufactures are not as good as the mainstream Japanese manufactures. What, Rush Linchmob, what does this guy know about green??
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Replying to: galvang (Dec 03, 2007 10:18 pm) |
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