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Re: chevy tahoe gmc yukon hybrid [kdhspyder] by galvang
Nov 14, 2007 (12:12 pm)
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Nov 14, 2007 7:00 am)

BoF, Sounds like my kind of SUV.
 
Truck frame vs the crossover unibody construction.
Ala, Ford Exploder Vs. Buick Enclave. Got it thanks.
 
The Yukon is BoF.
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Re: chevy tahoe gmc yukon hybrid [galvang] by kdhspyder
Nov 14, 2007 (1:53 pm)
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Replying to: galvang (Nov 14, 2007 12:12 pm)

Actually the BOFs are probably dinosaurs. Ford has announced already that the next Exploder will be a crossover. The lambdas are far more capable as people movers and more fuel efficient than either the TrailBlazer or Envoy. I also read that Nissan is replacing the Pathfinder as a crossover also.
 
This will leave..
Tahoe, Yukon, Escalade, Suburban, Expedition, Aspen/Durango, Sequoia, 4Runner, FJ, Armada, Xterra
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Re: radio problems [sherring] by wallacew
Nov 14, 2007 (3:42 pm)
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Replying to: sherring (Jul 11, 2007 3:52 pm)

I have been a Suburban buyer for a long time. I have a 93 Suburban that gets about 12 mpg around town. It only has 88,000 miles. I am irritated with how GM has screwed up the inside of the suburban where you can't remove or fold the seats down to create a 4x8 area to carry stuff. My daughter and son-in-law have wanted a Suburban for about a year. She brought over a Consumers Report magazine with the auto ratings. It made me ill looking at the ratings on the Yukon, Tahoe, Suburban and Yukon XL. The Yukon and Tahoe got worse than the full size.
My daughter and son-in-law are leaning now to a Dodge Caravan. I believe the oil companies have the auto manufacturers by the hand and dancing into record profits. The little bit of extra mileage they are getting makes it not worth the while to buy the expensive junk. If I was to buy a new car it would be a Toyota Prius just to make the oil companies eat their high priced gas.
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HOLY MACKREL!! Budget buster ALERT!! by tourguide
Nov 14, 2007 (5:14 pm)
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Retail prices for the new Tahoe/Yukon Hybrids are officially announced. I found this on Detroit News:
 
GM said the Chevrolet Tahoe Hybrid's suggested retail price would be $50,490 (two-wheel drive) and $53,295 (four-wheel drive), while the GMC Yukon Hybrid would be $50,945 (2WD); and $53,755 (4WD).
 
Those prices include a $900 destination charge and pending IRS approval, could be eligible for a federal tax credit.

 
All I can say is WOWSA!! You can drive a LONG way for the 10K premium people. So much for the theory that they were going to almost cost the same. This officially means I will be looking elsewhere for my next vehicle. I'm not getting into a vehicle that STARTS out costing the same as the first condo we ever owned. Sorry but I just don't see the value everyone.
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Re: radio problems [wallacew] by gagrice
Nov 14, 2007 (6:21 pm)
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Replying to: wallacew (Nov 14, 2007 3:42 pm)

I have been a Suburban buyer for a long time. I have a 93 Suburban
 
I'm with you. My 1998, last of the good Suburbans, was a very well built vehicle. The new stuff is tinny crap with plastic bumpers. Much of it was forced onto the automakers by lame government regulations. I should have never sold my 98 Suburban. It was 7 years old, trouble free with only 45k miles. I bought a 2005 GMC hybrid PU that was built out of tin foil. The new ones are even tinnier. The only thing my Suburban needed was a small diesel engine to be the perfect vehicle. I think the EPA, automakers and the oil companies are tied together. They keep adding more devices to clean the air a tiny bit more and never worry about the MPG. We keep buying as much oil, have lots more stuff to replace on the vehicles and the EPA has bragging rights on the infinitesimal amount they cleaned up the exhaust.
 
All three win and the consumer gets the big shaft.
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Re: HOLY MACKREL!! Budget buster ALERT!! [tourguide] by galvang
Nov 14, 2007 (9:04 pm)
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Replying to: tourguide (Nov 14, 2007 5:14 pm)

I saw that. I was very disapointed by those numbers. I've seen other numbers at around mid-40ish which would have been acceptable. At these prices sounds like Audi may win my business after all. I tried with GM, buy american, but looks like they are being unreasonable at these prices. Could it be because of the current gas prices being high that they will command an added premium to their hybrid?? Possibly so. If that will too bad not going here.
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Re: HOLY MACKREL!! Budget buster ALERT!! [galvang] by gagrice
Nov 15, 2007 (5:48 am)
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Replying to: galvang (Nov 14, 2007 9:04 pm)

I don't think it has anything to do with the price of gas. It is purely economics. They are adding about 30% more parts to the hybrid. Expensive parts like batteries, motors and electronic controllers. I just bought a 2007 Sequoia and the list price was $51, 864. It is not a hybrid. That is about what I would expect the Tahoe Hybrid to list for. If they do not sell at that price you may get a deal.
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Re: HOLY MACKREL!! Budget buster ALERT!! [gagrice] by galvang
Nov 15, 2007 (7:20 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Nov 15, 2007 5:48 am)

"Its purely economics."
 
I agree for their pocket books.
NiMH batteries are not that expensive. I agree motors are pretty expensive, electronic controllers are pretty cheap. If you compared a stripped down Yukon for the cost in the low 30's to the hybrid in the low 50's, thats a 20K difference in price. All those new parts for the hybrid does not justify the 20k adder though. That's why think these numbers are little fishy and inflated. I agree, I beleive they will lower the price in about six months if they want to be competitive.
 
God I hope you didn't pay the full MSRP for your Sequoia. Considering that this is their last year for this version and Toyota is moving to the new updated Tundra chassis.
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Re: HOLY MACKREL!! Budget buster ALERT!! [galvang] by gagrice
Nov 15, 2007 (7:51 am)
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Replying to: galvang (Nov 15, 2007 7:20 am)

I hope you didn't pay the full MSRP for your Sequoia.
 
NO way. I got it for $10k less than MSRP. Right at $4k under invoice. I bought the last year of the model as I don't want all the first year problems and it was a good buy. I am not a Toyota fan. I think the Sequoia, at least in this generation is a decent vehicle. I think Toyota electronics are behind GM by a few years. My 2005 GMC Sierra Hybrid PU with Bose stereo with XM standard is head and shoulders above the Sequoia sound system, that you cannot get XM or Sirrius even as a dealer add-on.
 
On a long trip I was able to squeek out 22 MPG on my GMC hybrid. Around town it was mostly 15 MPG. Hopefully the new GMC hybrid will be better than the first try.
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Re: chevy tahoe gmc yukon hybrid [chadx] by stevedebi
Nov 15, 2007 (5:52 pm)
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Replying to: chadx (Nov 13, 2007 9:27 am)

"Actually, it is when you are talking about such low mileage vehicles."
 
I have done those numbers before, and I still think that it may not be significant enough. Any increase is good, of course, but designing the vehicle lighter and with a smaller engine would possibly have greater effect.
 
OK, 91 gallons a year is something, but I'm not sure if it is worth the hybrid premium, depending on what the extra cost of the hybridization comes to.
 
I'm not sold that a battery pack is better than clean diesel for this purpose. After all, it is easier to refine diesel than gasoline.

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