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Last post on Jun 20, 2010 at 9:31 AM
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Honda Civic, Volkswagen GTI, Mazda MAZDASPEED MAZDA3, Car Buying
#4 of 11 Re: New car to tune? [xaeta]
by kork13
Jul 30, 2007 (1:55 am)
hahahahaha i totally agree... it took me about a week to finally realize it, but i drove by a minivan at some point, and then it hit me... the entire front end looks like a MINIVAN!!!
I think America is following the trend in Europe of heading toward the ultra-compact, as evidenced by the Civics, Minis, SmartCars coming to the US, and even the Elements and similar.
#5 of 11 Re: New car to tune? [kork13]
by nectar
Sep 04, 2007 (11:25 am)
both honda and vw are great cars to "tune". i prefer german cars myself less of the racer boy image.
for 500 bucks you can bump the gti from 200 to 250 hp and 300ft/lbs (i think i'm right on that number)
i don't think the civic is turbo (?), so big hp gains like that typically cost a lot of money.
#7 of 11 APR Upgrade to GTI
by 2gtiguy
May 10, 2010 (8:25 pm)
Nectar (et al...), I just had APR's ECU upgrade done on my 2010 4-door GTI. Went from 200HP/207lbs to 254HP/296TQ. $599 for the software plus $100 for the install at the top-rated dealer in the area. Worth every penny, my friend. The one thing I felt was lacking (that's a strong word) in my GTI was the HP/torque relative to other cars in the class. The chip flash has more than taken care of that, and at no cost to my mileage (unless I stomp on it a lot, which I sometimes do....
). Anyway, I'm with you on German cars, and I love my GTI.
#8 of 11 Re: APR Upgrade to GTI [2gtiguy]
by perunest
Jun 15, 2010 (3:47 pm)
Two questions on your chip upgrade.
1. Does this affect the warranty? I believe it does, but probably only for engine related problems.
2, Where did you have this done?
My fun car is a 2006 BMW Z4 M Roadster (330 HP) purchased new. I put this car away in the western Massachusetts winters, I'm looking for a four season fun car and the 2010 GTI is at the top of my list.
#9 of 11 Re: APR Upgrade to GTI [perunest]
by MrShift@Edmunds HOST
Jun 16, 2010 (9:35 pm)
If they can detect the chip and if the warranty claim has anything to do with the powertrain, you bet VW will deny it. There's nothing to say that the car's transaxle is going to enjoy the extra torque as much as the driver
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#10 of 11 Re: APR Upgrade to GTI [Mr_Shiftright]
by 2gtiguy
Jun 19, 2010 (10:23 pm)
Solid points. I don't drive it like a maniac, so it hopefully won't put too much strain on the transaxle. That said, APR's Stage I upgrade is designed to work within the specs of VW's existing equipment (which, being German, is outstanding), so I don't think it's an issue. Also, APR's upgrade includes the ability to switch back to stock settings AND lock it out once you've done that, making the upgrade "undetectable" (I used quotes because I haven't proven this yet). We'll see.
#11 of 11 Re: APR Upgrade to GTI [2gtiguy]
by MrShift@Edmunds HOST
Jun 20, 2010 (9:31 am)
Well the only way a chip is going to get that kind of power is cranking up your turbo boost, and so they are probably going to be able to detect that. It would be interesting to dyno the car to see what the actual HP ratings are. Also might be good to know how much boost they are dialing in--hopefully not excessive.
I'm modifying the supercharger on my MINI and I'm taking precautions for the added boost with cooler spark plugs and larger intercooler intake. One always has to be concerned with heat build-up when cranking on the boost I think.