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Article comments for First Drive: 2008 Scion xB - The 2008 Scion xB reminds you of what was accomplished by the first 2004 xB, a car so shocking that the entire Scion brand still revolves around it. (more)
#31 of 50 Re: Test Drive Impressions [kero1]
by bpraxis
Jun 27, 2007 (8:21 am)
Happy Wednesday Kero and I hope that you are feeling healthy, happy, and having a very nice day. Thankyou for the great feedback and insight.
2008 standards
Scion XB would cost me: $17,300.00 Highway MPG: 28
Element LX would cost: $18,800.00 : 25
Honda CRV would cost: $20,600.00 : 28
The issue that you mentioned regarding the air conditioner is somewhat disturbing. I wonder why Honda has not addressed the issue?
With appreciation and kind regards,
Brandon,
#32 of 50 Re: Test Drive Impressions [bpraxis]
by kero1
Jun 27, 2007 (9:44 am)
Brandon,
Alot of people don't by the LX element as it's missing some features most people want. I don't recall what they were but on EOC forum, many people advised buying the EX for a little more money.
When I went and looked at the XB the A/C condensor was also in a spot that could be easily damaged. Got take another peak at the car again and you will see what I mean. It was the first thing I checked when looking at the XB since I knew the element has that problem. Other 06 civic owners have had their condensors damaged and honda did not replace them, even with only a few thousand miles on the cars.
I think both are nice and I would take either for myself. The element seems bigger and more roomier inside when I saw them both.
It's now really up to your preferences as to which you like better and has the right utility for your needs.
Jun 28, 2007 (8:15 am)
I test drove the Element before I got the XB and I really did like it. The problem here in Indiana is there are absolutely no 07 EX's for sale. The 'cheapest' LX they had here on the lot was $22,000 and that was just out of my price range. I wanted the EX---yay manual seats and manual windows--these are things I WANTED as on my Suzuki Vitara they were the first things to break and were EXPENSIVE to fix.
What I liked most about the Element was the ability to fold the seats to the side and also fold them into a double bed--as well as the ruggedness of the interior. Had the XB and Honda been equally priced I may have went for the Honda--however I am very happy with my XB--
#34 of 50 Re: element [girlbuffalo1]
by bearcrkrd
Jun 28, 2007 (2:50 pm)
I've noticed the comparo's between Element and XB. I am just giving my opinion, as I've only sat in them, not driven either. The Element is a step up the ladder isn't it? The new 2.4 in the XB kinda equals the powertrain, but I don't think an Element All Wheel (4 Wheel?) Drive EX is a fair comparison to the XB. I'd like to say it's more vehicle, for sure it is different. I would think twice about driving even a dirt driveway in an XB. That is not a knock on it. That's how I take care of my Sienna, took care of the Camry I had, etc, etc. This is not meant to correct or whatever. Features, comfort, etc, those are fair comparisons, and enjoyable to read. I was just exercising and an Element drove by when I was walking the treadmill (nice view from our workout room!), so it was fresh on my mind.
#35 of 50 Thankyou for the great comments......
by bpraxis
Jun 28, 2007 (4:25 pm)
Hello Kero and everyone and I hope that you are having a nice day.
I very much like the Soviet Milk Truck look of the Element and it adventure persona. The hesitation that I have with the Element is the body style is now entering its sixth year for 2008 using the old CRV chasis.
As I mentioned befoe the Scion Xb is very quiet for its class, handled well and is peppy.
The new Car And Driver for August had a very negative review for the Xb. They were critical of its increased size, more conservative styling, and decreased gas milage among other things.
I am also noticing a lack of buzz for the new Xb on the internet. The early adoptors seem to be absent and the prior fans dont seem to like the new Xb.
This does not bother me at all, and I happen to feel the Element and Xb have very fun personalities. The new CRV is very attractive and is now the best selling sport utility in the US moving about 16,000 units per month. The resale of the CRV will be much better than the other two in my opinion. But I was so bored driving it.
Yes my heart will probably move me to the Element or Xb and I will keep you posted.
Thankyou again for your great insights.
#36 of 50 Re: 2008 xB!! [trucktricks]
by arumage
Jun 29, 2007 (8:14 am)
I sat in an HHR. There is no room in there! The ergonomics are terrible! Despite being the same width as the xB, my wife and I were rubbing elbows. The HHR need 9" of length to still have 12 cu. ft. less storage space with the rear seats folded.
The 2008 xB is rated on 2008 mpg ratings. The 2007 ratings put the 2008 xB at 24/31 which is better than the HHR by 1 mpg. The xB is also only 2 tenths slower to 60 and the quarter mile.
So to sum it up, the HHR has less utility, lower gas mileage, and a poorer suspension, but it is marginally faster. BTW, the Vibe is not very similar to the xB. They do not share the same engine.
#37 of 50 Re: 2008 xB!! [arumage]
by big_guy
Jul 02, 2007 (2:26 pm)
I test drove the '08 xB over the weekend. It is physically larger, quieter, more "cushy", and definitely quicker. However, they have "toyota"-ized the character right out of it. It isn't very fun to drive and it has lost the edgy look and feel to it. It has gone from a "hip to be square" box on wheels, to a "trying to fit in" crossover. Toyota excels at sucking the life out of thier vehicles ... which is too bad ... because I felt the Scion brand had re-injected some style into the company.
#38 of 50 Scion xB is not tall enough.
by orbit9090
Jul 15, 2007 (6:46 pm)
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The 2008 Scion xB is too low. It's not even as tall as the 2007 Toyota Matrix. It it several inches less-tall than the new VUE, CR-V, or RAV4. What a shame.
The 2008 xB is too hard to squeeze down into for this tall person, whereas the VUE, CR-V, and RAV4 have much better ingress\egress, but are too pricey.
The Chevy HHR is just a joke.
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Jul 16, 2007 (8:06 pm)
I bought a 08xb on June 30th and like it very much. It now has 2300 miles on it in two weeks.
26 MPG in combined highway and city driving/ 30 mpg on the highway at 70mph with air on/ 33mpg at 60mph without air/
large doors/just open and slide right in/ engine quieter than i thought and plenty of power/ large digital speedometer is a plus/ much cooler inside after parking as the slope on the windows keeps most of the sun out/ air can keep you cool on 95 degree day on setting 1/ was 101 today in florida had to go to setting 2/ a good bang for the buck/
#40 of 50 Re: Article Comments - 2008 Scion xB First Drive [KarenS]
by panelpro40
Aug 04, 2007 (6:44 am)
I have owned the new XB for 2 weeks, did a trip to Elmira, NY last weekend in it, What a ddifference between our old 06 model and the new 08, night and day, and also being the owner of an Element, 04, it is a lot closer to the Elements stature, but it handles better, The E turns very sharply in a circle, old xb did not, the new one turns equally as well if not better than both other cars.
Fuel milage is about the same, 2 or 3 miles difference per gallon, but the safety fetures out wiegh the negative fuel. side curtain airbags, 4 w disc brakes, smoother ride, \
Just a fun car to own, and drive, Last night I insstalled the factory fog light kit along with the lighted door sill plates, it is too cool.
if looking for accessories for this model. contact the scion dealer in ?Ma. SULLIVAN BROTHERS TOYO KINGSTON MA
not a plug, but saved several hundred dollars with my order, and installed it easy enough.
Mark