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Scion xB, Wagon
Article comments for First Drive: 2008 Scion xB - The 2008 Scion xB reminds you of what was accomplished by the first 2004 xB, a car so shocking that the entire Scion brand still revolves around it. (more)
Apr 27, 2007 (5:52 pm)
MPG is a reflection of the 3000 lb. vehicle weight. Perhaps the xD will be more frugal.
#12 of 50 Its Hideous!
Apr 27, 2007 (7:07 pm)
The Xb was an undistinguished car set apart by its funky styling and generous interior room. This one is simply plain old ugly.
#13 of 50 Check Consumer Reports for reliability
Apr 27, 2007 (9:37 pm)
Funny, but Consumer Reports rates the xB near and at the top for reliability in its class (small wagons) along with the Matrix. Personally, I look at long-term reliability than any initial quality rating. It's how the vehicle ages that matters.
The mileage, however is a bit disappointing, but I'm not surprised. Personally, I think they could have put the 1.8l engine it and been fine. Perhaps mileage wouldn't have been much better.
#14 of 50 Re: MPG [oldbob]
Apr 28, 2007 (11:42 am)
"Perhaps the xD will be more frugal."
It should get better fuel economy. The xD has the 1.8 mill from the Matrix instead of the 2.4L that is being used in the tC and xB.
#15 of 50 Re: MPG [oldbob]
Apr 29, 2007 (2:50 pm)
I think it is actually less about weight and more about power. The extra 50hp and 57 ft. lbs. are a big plus. I helped this car jump a little out of the cute categroy and into the small utility area where it still gets better gas mileage than the competition.
#16 of 50 seriously uncool
May 01, 2007 (2:29 pm)
we were looking at pictures of the new xb over spring break with my son and a bunch of his college buddies. the unanimous verdict: the car has gone from cool to way boring.
while pt and hhr remain great looking to boomers, xb may have "new and improved" itself off the internet generation's want list.
#17 of 50 Re: MPG [arumage]
May 01, 2007 (3:15 pm)
I'll have wifey's Sienna in for routine maintance this week and will be looking for the new xB. From the Edmund's review, I'm very excited about this car. It's basically a more usably shaped, smaller, lighter Camry for thousands less. I've owned two Camry's but the last couple of s have gotten too big and taken on the feel of a Japanese Buick. Yeah the new xB is ugly, but unique. Some graphics would surely help.
The previous xB was an urban car. My Toyota/Scion service write-up guy (wifey and I drive over 50,000 miles a year and get all our servicing done there plus his nephew is working with me on a multi-year project so we talk quite a bit) really thought highly of the previous xB. It had more legroom in the back than my Dad's 1995 Town Car. The longer wheelbase, lower height, and wider stance should make for a better road car.
And it should have both better performance and mileage than a Camry, while providing easier access in tight parking spots due to being narrower and sitting taller. Visibility will be better and I like the comfort of chair-like seating of our Sienna.
I am surprised that Toyota didn't introduce an engine between the 1.8L and 2.4L for this and the next Corolla. We'll see what the new Scion xD uses. As it stands the new xB competes with HHR, PT Cruiser, and VW Rabbit and is in another league from Matrix, Fit, Focus, Mazda 3, or Versa.
#18 of 50 Re: MPG [mcmanus]
May 02, 2007 (12:03 pm)
"... I am surprised that Toyota didn't introduce an engine between the 1.8L and 2.4L for this and the next Corolla. We'll see what the new Scion xD uses."
Here's what engines they get:
1NZ-FE 1.5 Old xB1
1ZZ-FE 1.8 Old Corolla
2ZR-FE 1.8 New Corolla, xD
2AZ-FE 2.4 tC, xB2
The 2ZR-FE has Dual VVT-i which varies valve timing optimally for various engine speeds and loads on both the intake and exhaust valves. The previous 1ZZ-FE only has variable valve timing on the exhaust valves.
#19 of 50 XB is boring.
May 02, 2007 (10:09 pm)
This review was very hilarious, I enjoyed reading it not because of the car but because of what was said in it. First I would like to point out that many over-generalizations were made. I've seen many pictures of the so called "scion crowd" and have not seen many of them doing any so called mock gang signs. Second I am 19 years old and in college, and I would never consider the XB as a car for me. I own a 2007 PT Cruiser Turbo and I am very happy with it, so in other words the Scion loyalist should be happy that their XB is being compared to the PT, but as a PT Cruiser owner I am offended. I would never compare a car that in my opinion was designed with no emotion and passion. I look at my car especially the original PT Cruiser and see that the designer designed it with passion and real excitement. As for the ending of the article sentence, "We'd certainly buy it before we would a PT Cruiser or a Chevrolet HHR. Because, let's face it, those cars are square." I can only say that I laughed and laughed for quite a bit, because if anything is square its the XB, not just because of its shape but because it is just plain boring.