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Subaru Legacy, Subaru Outback, Tires, Sedan, Wagon
#134 of 183 Re: Snow problems!! Help! [andreas3]
Dec 17, 2007 (1:52 pm)
Without a doubt it is the tires.
Summer tires are simply not useful in the snow, period. You will need a 2nd set of tires if you drive in snow.
Or get a winter beater.
It's the same for the EVO, STI, MazdaSpeed3, i.e. all sporty cars that come with summer tires.
Summer tires are actually OK in the rain, but not on snow or ice. The soft compound gets rock hard. There are no sipes on the tread blocks, either.
#135 of 183 Re: Snow problems!! Help! [andreas3]
Dec 17, 2007 (2:21 pm)
Yep - put a set of Nokians or some other mountain-and-snowflake-rated tire on there and you will think you just bought a new car. Again.
#136 of 183 Re: Snow problems!! Help! [xwesx]
Dec 17, 2007 (3:20 pm)
Summer tires are not only bad in snow, they are also VERY DANGEROUS in any conditions below 40-45 degrees! It's not only the lack of sipes, but also the fact that the tires are hard as rock and plasticy below that. The compound is not made for any kind of cold weather, even dry cold weather.
Even a set of all-seasons would help but I'd suggest the new Blizzack WS60 as a good snow tire for the car.
#137 of 183 Re: Snow problems!! Help! [paisan]
Dec 17, 2007 (3:37 pm)
Thanks for the advice fellas. You bet summer tires are dangerous up here. I'm in the mid 20s in temperature most of the time. I've had a couple of bad bowel-crunch moments already!
The SpecB comes with 18" rims and I don't think they make Blizzaks in that size. Any others that come to mind?
#138 of 183 Re: Snow problems!! Help! [andreas3]
Dec 17, 2007 (8:23 pm)
Personally I'd just order up some 17" tires and rims from tire rack, it's worth it to have a dedicated set of rims for snows. I've heard good things about the Dunlop Wintersport M3s but never drove on em myself.
#139 of 183 Re: Snow problems!! Help! [paisan]
Dec 18, 2007 (11:11 pm)
Yeah, the selection of winter-rated tires drops dramatically as you hit 17" and 18" rim sizes. I imagine that will change with time, but the price is also much higher in those sizes. You should be able to get the Dunlops, Blizzaks, or Michelin X-Ice in that size. There might be a couple Goodyear Eagles available in that size as well. Nokian, a more expensive tire to start, are ungodly expensive in a 17", but are also a great tire.
Jan 16, 2008 (6:20 am)
i just purchased these tires from tirerack for my 2000 outback based on what i've read here and the fact that they were a quick pick on consumer reports this month. i had them put on a few days ago and they seem very noisy. has anyone else noticed excessive humming/noise from the tires? the tires i replaced (goodrich traction t/a)were beat at 30k and one had a bad belt, so there was noise before, but i almost think these tires are louder. could something be wrong with one of them or might there be another issue? i have the car going back to the garage next week for another issue and will have them check the tires over.
i've had more expensive tires (potenzas, goodyear triple tred assurance, and goodrich traction t/a) but none have lasted for much more than 30-40k. i drive 30k a year, so i opted to go with a cheaper tire since i seem to be replacing them every year anyway. i hope i didn't make a mistake in getting these....
#141 of 183 Re: Sumitomo HTR+ [ksquared66]
Jan 16, 2008 (6:26 am)
The HTR+ are a bit louder, but they are an Ultra-high Performance All Season tire, which means it'll be a bit louder than a High Perf or Touring tire.
Barring hearing them though there could be something wrong with the mounting/balancing though.
#142 of 183 Re: Sumitomo HTR+ [paisan]
Jan 16, 2008 (8:29 pm)
ok, thanks! i didn't realize that the ultra high performance tires would be louder. when i have the car in the garage next week, i'll have them double check the tires just to be sure there's not another issue.
#143 of 183 Slightly different tire sizes - a problem?
Mar 15, 2008 (7:20 am)
My daughter has a 98 outback with 143k that she bought from a private owner who had replaced 2 tires with tires or similar wear but I measured the circuference of all four and measured the back 2 at 1/8" and 3/8" less than the fronts. She is experiencing an intermittent shuddering mostly while on straight road, at any speed. I thought it was a fuel or spark issue until we looked closer at the tires.
Is this an issue? I always hear the need to replace all 4. What if I measure a new tire and find one the same size? Can I use it?