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Re: No warranty on original tires ??? [snowbelter] by paisan
Oct 28, 2007 (8:12 pm)
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Replying to: snowbelter (Oct 28, 2007 8:47 am)

The failure rate of the speed rating has to do with heat, not potholes! Essentially the speed rating is the sustained speed you would need to go for the tires to blow out. It has nothing to do with pothole resistance.
 
Unless you plan on doing a sustained speed over 130mph, you won't run into problems. I've ran em on track, on road, and through blizzards on my SVX, no issues.
 
Also I live in NYC so I've hit potholes bigger than you can imagine.
 
-mike
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Re: No warranty on original tires ??? [paisan] by snowbelter
Oct 29, 2007 (4:34 am)
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Replying to: paisan (Oct 28, 2007 8:12 pm)

I am well aware that the speed ratings relate to speed and heat build-up. I understand there is also a relationshion to the strength of the tire. I've read that a tire with a higher speed rating provides greater resistance to failure, in a low profile tire, which I have read is more susceptible to damage from hitting a pothole.
 
And yes, I'm also aware that there are a number of articles questioning why family cars such as Subarus come from the factory with V rated tires which are expensive, don't wear well, and may be overkill.
 
Martin
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Re: No warranty on original tires ??? [milem] by krzyss
Oct 29, 2007 (6:16 am)
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Replying to: milem (Oct 27, 2007 10:30 am)

I also find it easy to buy tires (I think I bought 3 or 4 sets from tirerack.com in last 10 years). It is much harder to find good installer.
 
Sometimes I use tirerack price for local store to drop the price.
 
Krzys
 
PS Tell your local store that 300 tire can be had for 112 + S&H and see the price drop in an instant.
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Re: No warranty on original tires ??? [paisan] by krzyss
Oct 29, 2007 (6:19 am)
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Replying to: paisan (Oct 28, 2007 8:12 pm)

"the speed rating is the sustained speed you would need to go for the tires to blow out. It has nothing to do with pothole resistance."
 
Yes you are right but...
 
V rated tire must be built more robust that H rated one. It might be better to survive pothole hit as a by-product of its higher speed rating.
 
BUT...
 
If you hit pothole would you rather replace blown tire or bent pieces of suspension?
 
Krzys
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speed rating by cptplt
Oct 29, 2007 (12:22 pm)
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there is no sound reason why the OB/Legacy need a H rated tire unless its the 4 turbo, the reason they have V rated is that the RE92A in the stock size comes as a v. when I got my 02 WRX, they were putting V rated RE92 tires on the base Impreza too! Subaru probably just has a contract with Bridgestone for a warehouse or two full of that particular tire! Imay not go with a T rated tire but an H is fine, lets face it, half the people using snowtires are on Qs!
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Re: speed rating [cptplt] by paisan
Oct 29, 2007 (6:02 pm)
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Replying to: cptplt (Oct 29, 2007 12:22 pm)

I am still going to disagree on the "higher rating" meaning a stronger tire. Think of it logically, if the sidewalls are stiffer they are MORE suseptable to being destroyed by a pothole, than one with a softer more pliable one. As testament, I've gotten way more bubbles in "speed rated" tires with stiffer sidewalls than in standard regular tires. Also when offroading we purposely air-down our tires, not only to give us float over mud but to allow the tires to be far more pliable when rock-crawling. I've seen a lot of offroaders blow tires running at street pressure, whereas very rarely do you damage your tires rock crawling with aired-down tires.
 
-mike
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Snow problems!! Help! by andreas3
Dec 17, 2007 (2:46 pm)
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I have a 2008 SpecB that I thought was going to make mince meat out of the snow in Colorado. It comes with summer tires though and its the worst car I've ever owned on ice/snow. I basically have no brakes or steering whatsoever whenever I apply the slightest pressure on the brake going as slow as possible. The ABS kicks in and it basically has the handling of a sled. Will snow/all season tires help or is there another problem I'm not aware of with these cars?
My neighbor has an old beat up Astro van that can get through the stuff my shiny new Subaru can't. What a disappointment.... Please help.
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Re: Snow problems!! Help! [andreas3] by ateixeira
Dec 17, 2007 (2:52 pm)
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Replying to: andreas3 (Dec 17, 2007 2:46 pm)

Without a doubt it is the tires.
 
Summer tires are simply not useful in the snow, period. You will need a 2nd set of tires if you drive in snow.
 
Or get a winter beater.
 
It's the same for the EVO, STI, MazdaSpeed3, i.e. all sporty cars that come with summer tires.
 
Summer tires are actually OK in the rain, but not on snow or ice. The soft compound gets rock hard. There are no sipes on the tread blocks, either.
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Re: Snow problems!! Help! [andreas3] by xwesx
Dec 17, 2007 (3:21 pm)
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Replying to: andreas3 (Dec 17, 2007 2:46 pm)

Yep - put a set of Nokians or some other mountain-and-snowflake-rated tire on there and you will think you just bought a new car. Again.

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