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#396 of 580 Re: 1994 Legacy No Drive [marquiess]
Dec 20, 2009 (8:22 pm)
Are you sure you want to do this? My Subaru is on order so this is generic info.
Clutch reference means its manual (stick).
If you can move the gear stick between gears without using the clutch and nothing happens (I assume engine running) it sounds like the the selector forks are shot, not good. It might just be adjustment, but more likely a gearbox rebuild is required.
I assume the clutch is hydraulic, if fluid levels are low, top them up (master cylinder) but its irrelevant, you say can hear something happening when you operate the clutch and the gears are not being selected.
Lack of fluid in a manual box can make it hard to select a gear - but above you say you can move gear stick and nothing happens - thats not a clutch fault, its a gearbox fault.
Can you convert to auto - basically no, its a major and $$ job - getting the manual will not be enough.
Are you sure you are describing the problem correctly? Clutches typically fail in the run mode or just slide like crazy. Depending on how the clutch failed, trying to move a (good) gearbox into gear without a clutch will make a lot of noise and maybe result in attempted movement. If failure mode was no drive then it is possible to stir the gearbox with no event.
Can you describe step by step what you doing and having nothing happen?
To replace the clutch you have to split engine and gearbox - sounds like you need to also consider having the gearbox checked or exchanged.
The clutch is not expensive, its the labor to part and mate engine and gearbox - you don't want to pay for that twice, and doing it yourself - you need help the first time.
I assume you had the vehicle towed - since as you described it does not run under its own power.
#397 of 580 Re: 2005 Subaru Outback Transmission Problems after 8 months of having it, new [jbaudet]
Dec 25, 2009 (10:00 am)
Hi jbaudet, I know your message is from 2007 but you are the only one I could find who may be having a similar problem. Does/did your car feel like it had a vibration/slip when turning left or right? This is what my car feels like and I am trying to see if I have a transmission issue or if this common to Subaru's. It does not give me this problem when going straight so I think this either a transmission issue or a bad CV joint.
#398 of 580 Re: 1994 Legacy No Drive [britgeezer]
Dec 30, 2009 (10:55 pm)
Thanks for your advice.
#399 of 580 2000 Outback MT Problem
Jan 13, 2010 (12:54 pm)
I have a noise coming from my tranny "like a gear tooth is chipped or missing". It changes with car speed in all gears, clutch in or out. No noise when stopped.
My trusted mechanic checked it out and said I need a transmission rebuild. About $ 1850. + installation, clutch, bearing, fork and main seal while he's in there. Totaling about $3500.
Does that price sound right? He said the rebuild would not be more than that and probably lower but the rebuild shop wont know until they open it up.
My first thought was to sell the car if I can, it has 147,000miles and use the cash for a down payment on a newer model. I would be lucky to get 4-5k on trade in I think. Any thoughts?
#400 of 580 Re: 2000 Outback MT Problem [cfj1]
Jan 13, 2010 (9:14 pm)
Value if in prime condition for private sale with or without repair (after deducting repair costs), vs trade in.
I think the trade may be better - but you need to do the calculation. .
#401 of 580 Re: 2010 Legacy 3.6 Transmission question [wisalesman]
Jan 29, 2010 (9:28 pm)
I have a 2009 Subaru 2.5i I just bought and am having the same sensation during turns. My old 1999 outback was a standard, so I didn't have shifting issues.
#402 of 580 2002 Auto Transmission issue with <55K miles
Mar 23, 2010 (1:17 pm)
I have a 4-cylinder 2002 Outback with less than 55K miles (yes, that's right) and the transmission has begun slipping. It is most apparent on cool mornings (here in San Francisco that means in the 40s F) just after starting the engine. After putting car into drive and stepping on accelerator, the transmission engages then slips (best way i know how to describe at the moment) - the tachometer shoots up to 3500+rpm pulling out of my driveway.
Based on discussions with two dealers and a transmission shop, the vehicle should not have this issue at such low mileage. I getting a range of repair estimates of $1,400 (simple torque converter replacement) up to nearly $4,000 (subaru remanufactured trans with 12mo/12,000 mile warranty).
I'm trying to handicap the likelihood of coming in at either end of the range above.
(By the way Subaru America is unwilling to help since outside of 5 yr/60,000 mile warranty and I cannot provide service records from a dealer.)
Thoughts, opinions sought. Blue book value $8000-$8500.
#403 of 580 Re: 2002 Auto Transmission issue with <55K miles [mw94115]
Mar 24, 2010 (11:55 am)
Do you get this once it upshifts into 2nd gear, or is it only a first gear problem? Does it do this all the time from a stop (even when warmed up), or only the very first time you engage drive?
There have been reports of a delayed engagement that sounds like a first gear clutch issue, but this only happens the very first time shifted into first when cold, and doesn't repeat again until the next cold start.
#404 of 580 Re: 2002 Auto Transmission issue with <55K miles
Mar 24, 2010 (12:40 pm)
Thanks for your response.
The issue has occurred only when the car is 'cold' and from a stop. I have tried backing out of my drive, shifting to Drive and then feel it slip. I have stopped and re-started and felt the slip - each time the car has not really warmed up, perhaps running less than 5 minutes.
It is hard for me to tell what gear the car is in when the non-engagement / slippage happens. Given the duration of the slip and the speed (say 5-15, 17 mph) at which I have felt the slippage, I believe the car is in 2nd gear and possibly 3rd.
I had a mechanic put a box to the computer and gotten diagnostic codes P0732 and P0733, which, according to a Subaru manual, indicate incorrect gear ratios for 2nd and 3rd gear. He also took 2 pressure readings (don't know which) that were in the correct range.
#405 of 580 Re: 2002 Auto Transmission issue with <55K miles [mw94115]
Mar 24, 2010 (7:29 pm)
I just read thru theengine diagnostic table for P0732/33 on Page EN-480 of the 2002 shop manual, and it really doesn't help all that much. Just refers you to the tranny flow charts, and it sure gets complicated fast!
Before spending big bucks, find some shop that has a tranny flush machine with solvents and give it a try. Sometimes it is as simple as varnish or dirt in the valve body that is causing a reduction in pressure on a band, allowing slippage.