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Acura TL, Sedan
#89 of 2001 Re: 2009 Acura TL [robertsmx]
Sep 03, 2007 (5:41 pm)
1) If the TL had no torque steer, why does the Acura web site claim they have solved the torque steer problem for 2008? Maybe there won't be torque steer for 2008 and beyond, but that remains to be seen (felt).
2) Audi, BMW, Cadillac, Lexus, Lincoln, Mercedes, and even VW all offer 6, 7, or even 8 speed automatics. My 2004 Maxima had a silky smooth 5 speed. I expect a little more in the transmission of a luxury car.
3) The design of the TL will not be complete and attractive until they clean up that rear end like they did for the RL.
#90 of 2001 Re: 2009 Acura TL [150mphclub]
Sep 03, 2007 (6:31 pm)
The manual TL, particularly the manual TL-S, does have some torque steer, but the automatic TL has no discernible torque steer to speak of. You should know about torque steer since you own a Maxima. I know because I owned one and sold it and bought a TL instead. Personally, I think the TL's overall style is very attractive, much more so than the Maxima.
#91 of 2001 Of course it has torque steer
Sep 04, 2007 (1:49 am)
Just traded my 2005 TL (automatic) for a new Lexus IS350.
Main reason? Torque steer. Drove me nuts.
Summer tires, all weather, no difference.
Every front wheel drive has torque steer. The only question is how much. With as much power as the TL has, it was too much for me.
#92 of 2001 Re: 09 Spy Shot during the daytime [150mphclub]
Sep 04, 2007 (7:25 am)
Nothing too unusual- it's a spyshot. What did you expect?
#93 of 2001 Re: 2009 Acura TL [150mphclub]
Sep 04, 2007 (7:28 am)
Remains to be seen whether or not they will at least put a 6sp auto tranny in the 4GTL. Hopefully, they will offer a 6MT as well, otherwise I'll be looking elsewhere for a replacement for my 05. Personally, the TL is the best looking car in the segment. Obviously, this is very subjective.
#94 of 2001 Re: 2009 Acura TL [150mphclub]
Sep 04, 2007 (9:05 am)
I think most people expect 6 (or more) speeds in their automatic without actually understanding the point. As it is now, the 5AT in TL has virtually seamless shifting, short low gear to get off the line well, and tall enough to deliver 32 mpg at 72-73 mpg. I don’t see a point to putting 6AT for namesake. With FWD configuration, there is little to no “real” advantage. With SH-AWD, it becomes a must have.
Recently, I compared one of Acura’s 5AT, Honda’s 5AT (in the new Accord) and Lexus/Toyota front-drive 6AT, and arrived at a conclusion that the Acura 5AT would have been the best transmission choice for the new Accord, better than the 6AT in Lexus ES350. Why? Because the way ratios are set up, also considering the needs of a powerful front driver, and the need to accelerate once rolling (mild acceleration from top gear and aggressive acceleration from top gear).
As for torque steer, there is virtually none in my 2006. It is an easy car to accelerate while cornering. Even TL-S 6MT is said to not exhibit torque steer (it has an engine/transmission combination that delivers a lot of thrust and 90% of it at just 2000 rpm).
I do expect next TL to have 6AT however. But I think TSX would benefit more from it than TL would unless SH-AWD were a part of the picture, in which case the low gears will have to be geared shorter (a weakness in RL) and have room for a tall top gear.
I wonder why Infiniti has stuck with 5AT (and Lexus on its RX350).
#95 of 2001 Re: 2009 Acura TL [kennyg8]
Sep 04, 2007 (6:52 pm)
Why would Acura claim to have corrected a problem that doesn't exist?
(I used to own a 2004 Maxima)
#96 of 2001 Re: 09 Spy Shot during the daytime [ggesq]
Sep 04, 2007 (6:55 pm)
It was a joke. Lighten up.
#97 of 2001 Re: Of course it has torque steer [alexriedel]
Sep 04, 2007 (7:03 pm)
I tried the IS350 & the GS350. Very nice cars, but my head touches the sunroof on both of them. I guess I will try the 08 CTS next.
#98 of 2001 Re: Of course it has torque steer [150mphclub]
Sep 05, 2007 (3:23 am)
Yeah, the TL was roomier, that is true. In a Lexus you don't wanna be taller than 6'1", unless you have long arms