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Acura TL, Sedan
Sep 14, 2008 (3:30 pm)
Different tastes for different faces. While the 2007 Maxima might not be the prettiest car arond it does certainly represent Nissan doing something unique and not following the rest of the pack (my fiance has never liked 07). With the 2002 model I have to disagree and say it is still very much a beautiful car (its classic design has aged well, especially on the GLE trim) and many times has looked and still looks more expensive than it really is. Most would arguably say this was in fact the last nice Maxima. The 2009 Maxima though headed in the right direction does not inspire you because it does nothing different that the rest of the pack. It looks too Lexus ES350ish/Benzish towards the rear, too Magnumish in the front and boring in the rest of its design. On a whole it does not disappoint nor does it scream see me (not that that's a reason to buy a car). I will say that the TL is more maxima (a continuation of the 07's design) than the new 09 maxima is and it seems as if the TL was made (its added length) with the thought that the maxima was going to go bigger (bigger is always better right? well not really). That's why for me new TL is a no brainer. If anyone is in my area, Long Island, Island Acura (in Wantagh, NY right on 27 right off of Wantagh Pkwy) has an 09. Seems as if they are only one in the area to have one and many sales guys have not even seen it (makes me the first one I know of to test drive it my area). But boy oh boy, it looks a lot better in person and it screams take me home. Get out there and see one a dealer close to you and I'm sure you'll agree its a beautiful car, and even if it's not you'll agree that its still a value for the price.
#820 of 2002 Re: bodble2 [mrtrace1]
Sep 14, 2008 (6:13 pm)
You make it sound as if Acura is targeting cars like the Maxima with its TL. Maxima is more of a competitor of the Accord, and not a very good one at that. The TL is predominately targeted at the Lexus ES350, Infiniti G35, Mercedes C class, BMW 3 series and to an extent the 5 series.
#821 of 2002 Maxima to Accord...
Sep 14, 2008 (7:09 pm)
I do not think so. Your comparison of a Maxima to an Accord is bizarre as they are not even in the same class (have you ever priced a fully equipped Maxima vs a fully equipped Accord?). The Altima competes with the Accord toe to toe and many comparision tests will point this out. The Maxima is an entry-level luxury sedan and for the most part has always been (no matter what your opinion may be). Edmunds will clarify this with any review on this site that you can find and in fact the Maxima is probably the TL's chief competitor. You are comparing rear wheel drive cars (5 series, 3 series and the g-35) to the front wheel drive TL (we're not talking about the SHAWD model) and while I like the TL and think its a fine car its not up to the snuff of the germans nor infiniti.
#822 of 2002 Re: bodble2 [mrtrace1]
Sep 14, 2008 (7:50 pm)
You're right about the 2002 Maxima....I got mixed up on the timing of the model change-over. The 2002 Max in SE form was fairly attractive.
#823 of 2002 Re: Maxima to Accord... [mrtrace1]
Sep 14, 2008 (7:57 pm)
I agree that the Maxima's target market is not the Accord. The first Maxima (circa 1980?), along with the Toyota Cressida, were the first Japanese entry luxury sedans. The Max has always aimed for Acura, although I think it's slipped a notch in recent years. It's still more upscale than the Accord/Camry, but I'm not sure it's hitting the Acuras. However, I'm not a big fan of Infiniti, so I wouldn't lump them in with the Germans.
#824 of 2002 Re: Maxima to Accord... [mrtrace1]
Sep 15, 2008 (6:09 am)
A majority of buyers wouldnt cross shop the Maxima and the TL, here are my groupings-
#825 of 2002 Re: Maxima to Accord... [billyperks2]
Sep 15, 2008 (9:37 am)
I think you'd find a sizable segment who would cross-shop the TL and the Max, just as you would with the Max and the Accord. Truth be told, so many of these cars have some overlap. You can also throw the IS series and the TSX into (probably) both groups.
#826 of 2002 Re: Maxima to Accord... [bodble2]
Sep 15, 2008 (10:59 am)
My 2 cents...
I think people who want a compact car (Corolla, Civic, Sentra, Versa, etc) might cross shop the mid size family cars (Accord, Camry, Altima, etc) but people who are looking for mid size family cars will not cross shop the mid size sporty cars(Maxima, Passat, Mazda 6, etc). But, people who are looking for mid size sporty cars might cross shop with sporty premium cars such as TSX, IS, TL, 3 series, C-class, G35, CTS, etc.
#827 of 2002 09 TL pricing
Sep 15, 2008 (1:21 pm)
UA8629JW TL $34,955.00
UA8659KW TL Tech $38,685.00
UA9629JW TL SH-AWD $38,505.00
UA9659KW TL SH-AWD Tech $42,235.00
UA9659KXW TL SH-AWD Tech HPT $43,235.00
Destination is $760. This is very official. HPT's are the 19" high performance summer tires. Tech package is very expensive but comes with some cool features. More than just the nav. If you want the ELS audio then get the tech package. Hope this helps.
#828 of 2002 Re: 09 TL pricing [rv65]
Sep 15, 2008 (3:13 pm)
"...but comes with some cool features."