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Acura TL, Sedan
Mar 22, 2010 (4:11 pm)
I owned a 2000 acura integra GS_R a 4 cyl 170 hp coupe that changed the way people look at compact cars - and was the reason there is now a mazdaspeed, an evo, a WRX in the US market. Acura was bold with its style and performance and didnt care what LExus was doing. Now they have 3 SUV's - 3 sedans- no coupe, converts, or sports cars.-- the division needs some life quickly before it can be considered anything other then a comp for buick and lincoln.
anyone know how many Tl's were sold in 2009 vs G 2009??
#1590 of 2002 Re: old days [sweendogy]
Mar 23, 2010 (5:32 am)
I can tell you for sure- you will never get me to swap out my grill for that awful looking piece of mesh.
#1591 of 2002 Re: Do You Consider Acura A Luxury Brand??? [smarty666]
Mar 23, 2010 (6:23 am)
smarty....I don't know that it really matters what others consider Acura. Plain and simple, it's Honda's luxury division, just like Lexus is to Toyota, or Infiniti is to Nissan.
I've yet to meet anyone who hasn't believed that their Acura/Honda product wouldn't serve them well for 150K miles and above. I like the way they drive. I even like the way they sound when you really wind them up.
Up until recently, I always felt that as good as they drive, they were fairly "ho hum" in their styling. That changed in the most recent iterations. They went bold. And I like that.
Honda saves their best for Acura. Everything they've learned in racing, in development, all goes into the Acura lineup. IMHO, the best at what they do is in the TL.
Their build quality rivals (and sometimes exceeds) any car brand I've ever experienced (that includes Audi, Benz and BMW). As far as coupes are concerned, there are really only a few that I'd consider....a Mustang, a Camaro, a Corvette, or a Porsche.
If I truly worried about what others thought, I'd probably be in a Masserati, which is to me one of the most beautiful sedans on the road. But, I don't wory. I like what I like.
I really like my TL (had a 3rd gen I liked, too).
#1592 of 2002 Re: old days [billyperks2]
Mar 23, 2010 (6:24 am)
billy, I'm with you on that grill picture. Not feeling that, at all.
#1593 of 2002 Re: old days [graphicguy]
Mar 23, 2010 (3:21 pm)
with that grill it looks exactly like the buick la cross -- something acura should now be targeting.
#1594 of 2002 Re: old days [sweendogy]
Mar 23, 2010 (3:39 pm)
LOL, why would Acura "target" a Buick? If anything from GM, it would be the Cadillac CTX, but I bet it is BMW 3/5-series, Audi A4/A6, and the likes that Acura has in mind.
By the way, that after-market grille may belong to the '80s, but it can really cheapen modern cars.
#1595 of 2002 Re: old days [jtla]
Mar 23, 2010 (4:06 pm)
have you read my past posts- acura is now the new buick..
..CTS line of cars offer more excitement then the entire acura line-- wagon, coupe and super car (with a vette engine) -- your joking if you think audi and bmw are even looking at acura as a real competitor. Its a nice honda- with some cool technology but they are not drivers cars- its not a leader in any segment-- and its a shame because they had everything lexus had 10 years ago but are now an after thought.
#1596 of 2002 Re: old days [sweendogy]
Mar 23, 2010 (7:23 pm)
Audi and BMW may or may not view Acura as a real competitor, but that does not keep Acura from targeting them as such. Incidentally, what you said is exactly my point: car makers aim high, not low. Therefore, it is less likely Acura would have Buick in mind as its target when designing the TL.
#1597 of 2002 Re: old days [jtla]
Mar 24, 2010 (4:54 am)
jtla.....Where the TL competes (especially, the SH AWD version) is hotly contested....Cadillac, BMW, Audi, Infiniti etc. The base TL, as mentioned before, is probably targeted at the Lexus ES (which in turn, Buick has targeted with the LaCrosse).
I saw the LaCrosse at the local car show about a month ago. Never driven one. But, I can say they did a nice job on it, just by sitting in it. And, you can see why they are doing their marketing towards stealing some Lexus ES buyers. Not my cup of tea, but apparently there's a broad market for the ES/LaCrosse.
I can't really see someone who's shopping for a Lexus ES or Lacrosse shopping the TL, though. I think Acura people are looking for something more distinctive, and better handling.
The TL base FWD and the SH AWD version are really two different cars (and two different markets). The SH AWD has a different personality. It's a great handling machine, yet offers a firmer ride that you'd get in an Infiniti G37xs, BMW 3, or Audi.
Again, there are no bad choices. It was a tough one for me between the G and the TL. If the S version of the G had better seats (I'm 5'10", ~175 lbs), and I found them more comfortable, my decision would have been much tougher. The TL SH AWD and the G37xs are very close performance-wise. The Acura just fit me better.
Plus, I really liked the TL's styling, too.
No bad choices between the two.