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#1522 of 2001 4th Generation TL Rattle Issues?
Nov 20, 2009 (3:24 pm)
Hey everyone, I was curious to find out, the 2009 TL's have been out over a year now and the 2010 TLs are already here; the 3rd generation TL, especially from 2007-2008 was plagued with a lot of noise/rattle issues, things coming loose and making noise while driving etc
I wanted to find out from 4th generation owner if any of you have had rattle/quality issues with your TL at all or problems with vibrations/buzzing noises in your cars when driving? I'm just curious to see if Acura has begun to address these issues which affected a decent majority of 3rd generation owners because Acura makes a great product and the TL is by no means a cheap vehicle and for a 34k-35k dollar car to get rattles and vibration noises was just unacceptable
Thanks in advance for your posts and information!!!!
#1523 of 2001 Re: Where are the 2009 TL Owners? [billyperks2]
Nov 21, 2009 (2:00 pm)
Let me try to explain this nicely, 'cause, as you know, we gotta play nice here in Mr. Rogers' Neighborhood. Numbers do mean something. Your government spends a huge amount of your tax dollars compiling numbers. You can't just toss aside numbers if they don't fit your argument. If a car feels smaller on the inside than it's numbers would suggest, it's not that the numbers mean nothing. Probably that's more to do with the packaging...the size and shape of the seats, the curvature of the door panels, roofline, etc, etc, etc Acura could certainly have kept the interior "roominess" of the TL, but made the exterior smaller. No one is suggesting that they cut a foot off in length, but a couple of inches or so off the front and the back would make a world of difference. A lot of that exterior size is done for styling purposes. I think the length to wheelbase ratio is a real telling stat. The TL has a longer length but a shortish wheelbase. Aside from interior room, that gives it a somewhat awkward long overhang, which does nothing for it's aesthetics, practicality, or dynamics. What exactly is the TL? Full-size or mid-size? Is it sports sedan or cruiser? It's huge for a mid-size. It's exterior dimensions encroaches on full-size. But as a full-size, the interior and trunk capacity should be even roomier. It rides too harsh to be a cruiser, but it's not athletic enough to be considered a serious sports sedan. To me, it kind of symbolizes the confusion that's going on at Honda right now. They've gotten away from building the type of cars that made them what they were. They were good at building smaller, efficient, sensible, practical, but fun to drive cars. Now, they are trying to upsize their products, to be "edgy", to be "bold". They can almost pass for a division of General Motors. But the results show in their sales. They have now resorted to stuffing consumers' pocket with rebates to try to sell a lot of their models. There's a $5K rebate on the TL! Previously that's unfanthomable for a brand new first-year Honda/Acura model. You look at some of their new offerings....Crosstour, ZDX, Insight, the TL to a certain degree, and you go "what the heck is that about?"
Have a nice day now. And a great big Hello to our friendly hosts!
#1524 of 2001 Re: 4th Generation TL Rattle Issues? [smarty666]
Nov 21, 2009 (2:10 pm)
no rattles, no buzzes, just pleasure
#1525 of 2001 Re: Where are the 2009 TL Owners? [boogeyman]
Nov 21, 2009 (5:47 pm)
Play as nice as you want, the Government spend a lot of money on other things that does not benefit the taxpayer.I am seaking from my own experience, I complied all those numbers before I bought my TL beacause there were other cars out there that was giving the TL stiff competition for my purchase.I owned a 2003 TL type S so I wanted to try a different brand, when I went out and did the test drives (for a year) and factored in the financial aspect the TL won by a mile.
#1526 of 2001 Re: Where are the 2009 TL Owners? [billyperks2]
Nov 21, 2009 (6:39 pm)
Billy, perhaps since you and I are both happy TL buddies, you can explain to me what this tempest in a teapot is all about. There is a bit of apples and oranges here, since the 535 is close in size, but far away in price. We loved our 325 that we sold for the TL, we were tired of the size. We tested the new 328 and the increase in room was insignificant, we didn't consider the 5 series because of price, we felt stretched as it was. That is also why we eliminated Infinity and Audi.
I truly don't see what all the 'talk' is over a few inches.
#1528 of 2001 Re: Where are the 2009 TL Owners? [boogeyman]
Nov 21, 2009 (11:45 pm)
There's a $5K rebate on the TL!
Where did you see the $5k rebate info? I checked Edmunds' Incentive and Rebate, but could only fine a $1,500 dealer cash for 2009, but not for 2010. A $5k rebate would probably make the TL a screaming buy, despite its over-sized dimension.
#1529 of 2001 Re: Where are the 2009 TL Owners? [jtla]
Nov 22, 2009 (12:45 pm)
I should have elaborated....that's in Canada, and only on the '09 TL.
#1530 of 2001 Re: Where are the 2009 TL Owners? [billyperks2]
Nov 23, 2009 (11:47 am)
You and I are not arguing about the same issue. No doubt you bought what you thought was best for you. Who wouldn't? That wasn't my point. What I'm saying is that Acura made the TL unnecessarily big, and that snipping a couple of inches here, and a couple there, would have made the car much more livable, without sacrifacing too much, if anything. But whatever, I'm not going to waste anymore of my time trying to explain my point to you. You've obviously got the blinders on.
Oh, and just so you'd know, is not that I want to play nice per se, but as you know, Edmunds is sponsored by the Senior Ladies Bridge and Lawn Bowling Club of America (and I think employs a couple of their members too But strictly part-time though ).
#1531 of 2001 Re: Where are the 2009 TL Owners? [boogeyman]
Nov 23, 2009 (12:05 pm)
I'm really not sure who boogeyman is arguing with here. The only FACTS presented here are measurments. The rest is anecdotal opinion. I also don't understand the references to playing nice. There is no reason to play any other way. Opinion is just that, opinion, and if someone doesn't agree, it doesn't mean they have blinders on, it means they don't agree. period.