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Re: on the fence re 09 TL [neilman]
by hpmctorque
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Jun 03, 2009 (9:40 pm)
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Replying to: neilman (Jun 01, 2009 1:44 pm)
In warm climates with straight, level roads, the negatives of all wheel drive (weight, fuel economy, complexity, extra initial cost) outweigh the positives by a wide margins. I might choose SH-AWD over FWD if I lived in the Upper Midwest, the Rocky Mountain region or New England, but never if I lived in Florida. Never. Rain or no rain. AWD in Florida is the equivalent of using a cannon to kill a mosquito.
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- #1428 of 1532
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Manual Transmission?
by mdhauke
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Jun 04, 2009 (7:09 pm)
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I am disappointed the 09 does not have manual transmission. Does anybody know if the 10 model will have that option?
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- #1429 of 1532
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Re: Manual Transmission? [mdhauke]
by Chasboy
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Jun 04, 2009 (8:09 pm)
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Replying to: mdhauke (Jun 04, 2009 7:09 pm)
I believe it will be offered in 2010.
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- #1430 of 1532
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Re: 09 TL Grille [neilman]
by Chasboy
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Jun 04, 2009 (8:23 pm)
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Replying to: neilman (May 31, 2009 4:14 pm)
I'm becoming very concerned about the grill's durability also.
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- #1431 of 1532
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Re: 09 TL Grille [Chasboy]
by neilman
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Jun 05, 2009 (4:48 am)
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Replying to: Chasboy (Jun 04, 2009 8:23 pm)
Can you be more specific...are you noticing any problems? It is a massive amount of chrome for the front of a car, which usually takes the most wear and tear. I don't know of any other vehicle with a large solid piece of chrome in the front like the TL. It may have to be something to add to the cost of ownership...i.e. having to replace it after every few years or somthing. Doubt that would be cheap...
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- #1432 of 1532
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Re: 09 TL Grille [neilman]
by Chasboy
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Jun 05, 2009 (5:16 am)
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Replying to: neilman (Jun 05, 2009 4:48 am)
Neil, this would not be the first time a manufacturer had to come up with a solution to cure a problem. There is no way the customer should have to pick up the cost of replacing what could develop into a design flaw. When I picked up the car, it had watermarks on the grill. I mentioned this and the detail guys polished them all out nicely. I have since seen similar marks left when washing(didn't dry it thoroughly the first time) and they seemed to come out. Naturally the grill is going to take a lot of bug and road debris hits. All of that has cleaned up well. However, I'm keeping a close watch on it and I might start a 'complaint campaign' to Acura if it seems that long term durability is going to be a problem. We own this car and plan to keep it a very long time. 
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- #1433 of 1532
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Re: 09 TL Grille [Chasboy]
by neilman
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Jun 05, 2009 (11:22 am)
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Replying to: Chasboy (Jun 05, 2009 5:16 am)
I fully agree...owners shouldn't have to deal with living with dings / blemishes or spend $$ to replace a grill due to lack of durability or poor design.
Thanks
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- #1434 of 1532
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2009 TL Body Style
by goddess_1
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Jun 06, 2009 (12:16 pm)
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What is UP with with '09 TL body styling??? Yes, it made an impression but it's not a positive one. That rear is hideous, the front isn't much better, and I just don't understand what happened. Maybe someone from their design team can fill us in . . .
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- #1435 of 1532
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Re: 2009 TL Body Style [goddess_1]
by neilman
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Jun 06, 2009 (1:57 pm)
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Replying to: goddess_1 (Jun 06, 2009 12:16 pm)
I understand it's not for everyone...it seems to be a love it or hate it thing. Based on the official sales figures for the month of May the TL is acura's # 1 seller at the moment...so it seems to be catching on. I for one think it is awesome...bold, aggressive, etc. absolutely love it and can't wait to get one in black.
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- #1436 of 1532
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Re: 2009 TL Body Style [neilman]
by Chasboy
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Jun 06, 2009 (5:49 pm)
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Replying to: neilman (Jun 06, 2009 1:57 pm)
Agreed Neil, I like the bold styling. Looks fast standing still to me. I also am a fan of the 'bustle back' going all the way back to the second gen. of the Caddy Seville. For me, the TL is the chance to own a great driver's car that is about the size of a BMW 5 series at much less cost. We loved our 325i, but this car is better at everything except mileage, but I knew that going in.
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