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Re: what's G? [sweendogy]
by eblock2
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Jan 30, 2009 (10:34 pm)
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Replying to: sweendogy (Jan 30, 2009 4:53 pm)
I don't know how you get these numbers but you gotta keep in mind that Nissan is crazy with the options. The Infiniti starts at $33,500, the TL starts at $35,000 but is much better equipped. With the Infiniti you need to add a $2500 premium package to match the TL's base model in functionality, but wait! The package isn't available on the base model, you need the more expensive G37 Journey plus the $2500 premium package for $36,250 total compared to the $35,000 TL.
But what are you getting with the Infiniti? I've driven both cars, compared to the TL the G37 has better performance obviously, its what the brand is about. But it's also much louder, rougher, and the engine isn't as smooth especially at full throttle. The Infiniti has a 7 speed automatic, but it sucks, the shifts can get rough and its constantly hunting for gears. The TL is only a 5 speed but the ratios are nice, its smoother, and seems to have smarter shift logic. The interior is also nicer in the TL but I think Infiniti is getting better.
The TL has great performance, but balancing comfort/luxury and sporty character is Acura's thing, and if you desire both equally the TL is a good choice. You can expect it to be more reliable too. If you're racing to work all the time and want even more performance without shelling out for a BMW, the Infiniti is a better choice.
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- #1320 of 1532
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Re: what's G? [eblock2]
by bvdj84
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Feb 01, 2009 (7:04 am)
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Replying to: eblock2 (Jan 30, 2009 10:34 pm)
I have to agree, that Honda seems to have a really smooth engine, the shifting seems to be well programmed. Even on an 06 Accord 4cyl I had. When it was fully broken in, it was quite smooth, and smart. It did not seem to keep hunting around for a gear. More gears does not always mean better, sometimes it is a matter of programming the gears in the most efficient and practical way. Let us know which model you choose.
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- #1321 of 1532
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Re: what's G? [eblock2]
by sweendogy
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Feb 01, 2009 (9:33 am)
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Replying to: eblock2 (Jan 30, 2009 10:34 pm)
your right i was off by a grand on the starting price of the G -- still 1500 less to get -in and with 50 more HP - -- I would argue your post saying it has great performance--really?? have you read the articles I have on the new TL-- I would bet the performance would be closer to the Accord then a Beemer.
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- #1322 of 1532
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Totally destroys?
by xrunner2
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Feb 02, 2009 (11:15 am)
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Replying to: sweendogy (Jan 30, 2009 4:53 pm)
According to R&T, the 09 Acura beats the G37 in the handling test - the Slalom. Acura is 67.4 MPH and G37 is 67.1. Granted that is small and difference has to be more than 1.0 MPH to be significant. The cars are essentially equal.
But, the Acura "Significantly" beats the G37 on the skidpad. Acura is 0.91 G and G37 is 0.86. That is .05 difference and significant is .02 or more.
Acura beats G37 in 60-0 and 80-0 Braking. Acura is 117 ft, 204 ft and G37 is
121 ft, 218 ft.
So, G37 beats Acura on acceleration.
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- #1323 of 1532
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TL and BMW
by xrunner2
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Feb 02, 2009 (11:21 am)
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Replying to: sweendogy (Feb 01, 2009 9:33 am)
Actually, according to R&T, the Acura TL beats the BMW 335i coupe by significant margins in slalom and skidpad. In spite of TL being 400 pounds heavier than the 335i, the TL equals the 60-0, 80-0 braking times.
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- #1324 of 1532
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Re: what's G? [eblock2]
by xrunner2
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Feb 02, 2009 (11:25 am)
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Replying to: eblock2 (Jan 30, 2009 10:34 pm)
March issue of Automobile does not like noisy engine. Testers wonder how a car can sound so good per its exhaust pipes but so bad inside the car.
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- #1325 of 1532
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Can't get over the GRILL
by cyborgen
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Feb 02, 2009 (1:01 pm)
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If they offered alternate grills I might consider the TL.
They've got the wrong nose on a great package. A polarizing look means that you're going to lose sales based on looks. How that beak got past the aesthetics department is part of the 'caramilk' mistery ROFL !!!
 ... putting shades on won't help either !
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- #1326 of 1532
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Re: Can't get over the GRILL [cyborgen]
by keithl
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Feb 02, 2009 (5:00 pm)
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Replying to: cyborgen (Feb 02, 2009 1:01 pm)
There is one alternate grill now available and Ron Jon will have an awseom grill in about 3 months. I just got a SH-AWD TL and the grill is tolerable, but I plan on getting the Ron Jon grill in a few months, makes the car totally different!
http://tl.acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=704765
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- #1327 of 1532
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Re: Can't get over the GRILL [keithl]
by billyperks2
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Feb 02, 2009 (7:15 pm)
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Replying to: keithl (Feb 02, 2009 5:00 pm)
I will stick with the original grill when I pick up sh awd in a couple of months.It looks good in person and it looks real aggressivewhen the car is motion.
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- #1328 of 1532
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09 TL
by higgledy
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Feb 08, 2009 (11:41 am)
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The 2009 Acura TL is ugly on the outside but beautiful on the inside.
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