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Re: '09 TL Sales? [hpmctorque]
by keithl
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Jan 28, 2009 (4:35 am)
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Replying to: hpmctorque (Jan 27, 2009 7:04 pm)
Your numbers are correct, but Acura does not break down by model year. The October 2008 sales do not say what percentage of those cars were 09 vs. heavily discounted 08. Dealers still had huge 08 inventory in October and November. The real numbers to look at are the December 08 numbers where Acura sold 40% fewer TL than December 07. By December most 08 inventory (discounted $3500) was gone and that number is mostly 09 inventory. For December 09 Infiniti sold more G sedans than Acura sold TL, that is the first time that has ever happened. Sure the economy is partially to blame, but I beleive the $3K increase in price on the 09 and the polarizing restyling are to blame.
http://www.hondanews.com/categories/1074/releases/4898
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Re: '09 TL Sales? [keithl]
by tizer
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Jan 28, 2009 (6:30 am)
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Replying to: keithl (Jan 28, 2009 4:35 am)
Agree, this post is current. Dick Culliver just wants to wait for the market to improve? Acura needs a better strategy(better front end styling the the 09TL) in these times.
I think by the Summer there will be at least $3500 "Marketing support" on the TL and a AWD Tech will be selling in the mid 30's.
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Re: '09 TL Sales? [tizer]
by billyperks2
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Jan 28, 2009 (7:17 am)
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Replying to: tizer (Jan 28, 2009 6:30 am)
Dont blame it on the styling because everyone across the board is feeling it in terms of sales been dismal.The Lexus GS 350 (handsome car) is selling way below invoice and the sales figure on those are down as well.The Infiniti G sedan has a lot of incentive, rebates and marketing support so that brings shoppers in the door.I dont know what's going on at Honda but someone needs asisst them in the finance area, last month the money factor on a TL AWD Tech was around 3%, this month they bumped it up to 6%.The last I heard is, the country is in a recession, does Honda know the meaning of that?
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Re: '09 TL Sales? [billyperks2]
by bodble2
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Jan 28, 2009 (10:25 am)
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Replying to: billyperks2 (Jan 28, 2009 7:17 am)
The GS350 is so yesterday. Incentives or not, I'm sure the G got some potential TL customers. I, for one, never considered a G prior to the '09 TL simply because the TL hands down looked so much better inside and out. But the '09 TL kinda levelled that playing field. And I think Honda is aware of the global recession. In this neck of the woods, there are cash rebates on almost all Honda models up to $7K. $10K rebate on the MDX, $5.5K on the RL, $2K on the TSX. They had $2K on the '09 TL but they pulled it. I'd bet they'll offer a larger rebate later if the car doesn't sell. My non-scientific observation is that the TL is not selling well. I've seen a grand total of 2 on the road. As much as I like the AWD, and to "stay in the Acura family" (I have had no problem with the service they have provided. Even the sales staff have been good, and I generally don't think much of Honda salesmen), they would have to discount heavily for me to give up my '04 for an '09.
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Re: '09 TL Sales? [bodble2]
by laurasdada
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Jan 28, 2009 (11:46 am)
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Replying to: bodble2 (Jan 28, 2009 10:25 am)
Hate to say it, but I won't even consider an Acura until they ditch The Beak. Yes, I'm that superficial. Love my '05 TL, though. Don't love what winter does to the Zaino shiny body, though...
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Re: '09 TL Sales? [bodble2]
by billyperks2
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Jan 28, 2009 (1:08 pm)
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Replying to: bodble2 (Jan 28, 2009 10:25 am)
"The GS350 is so yesterday".
So is your 04 TL.
The G I did consider until I test drove it (G35x), I did like it but I think with about a year of ownership, buyers remorse would overcome me.
The fact of the matter is, the economy is takiing its toll on just about everything.
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what's G?
by sweendogy
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Jan 28, 2009 (6:08 pm)
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billyperks2
The G I did consider until I test drove it (G35x), I did like it but I think with about a year of ownership, buyers remorse would overcome me.
wrong I have a 2007 G35x -the only remorse I have is it does not have an acura emblem.-cause i loved the service when I had a GS-R.. and the fact my job is prob going away in the next 3 months. Sure fuel economy not the best but the fact of the matter is the 07 g35 --and i would guess the older model G--2005-2006 would stand up to the New TL in terms of performance.. the Newer g37 totally distroys the TL in standard form..REAR drive -- quicker -sportier ... What's G?? a better car.
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Re: what's G? [sweendogy]
by xrunner2
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Jan 29, 2009 (5:30 pm)
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Replying to: sweendogy (Jan 28, 2009 6:08 pm)
Re: "the Newer G37 totally destroys the TL in standard form.." Maybe you could provide some data from Edmunds, Car and Driver, Road and Track, etc. to back up your "totally destroys". How about it???
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Re: what's G? [xrunner2]
by sweendogy
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Jan 30, 2009 (4:53 pm)
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Replying to: xrunner2 (Jan 29, 2009 5:30 pm)
XRUNNER-- heres your data.
edmunds--
http://www.edmunds.com/apps/vdpcontainers/do/vdp/articleId=135807/pageNumber=1?s- ynpartner=edmunds&pageurl=www.edmunds.com/reviews/comparison/articles/135807/art- icle.html
Car and driver- G37 Ten best award- No TL on the list--but the cts is??
road and track data-" It accelerates the TL to reasonably quick times, but at 6.3 seconds to 60 and 14.8 sec. at 96.7 mph through the quarter mile, it's considerably off the pace of a key competitor, the BMW 335i, which generates corresponding numbers of 5.0 and 13.5 at 104.5, G35x is 5.5."
Lets not forget the price tag to get into a TL- it starts at 35k --The G 32.5--the g has 50 plus standard HP and the fact the TL looks like it does.
enjoy the data
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