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Acura TL 09 and Acura TSX 09 by aries1
Dec 10, 2008 (2:11 pm)
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I have managed to drive both (each with a tech. package).
TL is simply unbelievable. Very much more upscale in comparison with my old 07 TL. Totally different drive. I have several "Wow" comments from people. It drives very close to Lexus. It all depends of your taste of course. The screen of navigation system is LCD and is extremely bright no matter what. Very easy to download a phone book and very easy to dial. The main knob is easy to use after 10 minutes of learning. I have a Xzelion coating put on a car so I've received a 09 TSX with tech. package as a loaner. It is very close to the old TL, but you feel the engine noise once in a while. Navigation screen is a complete disaster. If sun is on, the screen is almost 100% unreadable due to a glare. If there is no sun, but just blue sky, you can see back frame and blue sky glare on a screen.
This is a big turn off of TSX. It has to corrected ASAP.
So far I love the TL. They have my old car and new car lined up and the difference was quite striking.
In my opinion, the new TL is simply in a different category (more upscale).
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Re: 2009 TL Redesign [ftam] by chucko3
Dec 11, 2008 (7:54 pm)
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Replying to: ftam (Dec 09, 2008 8:24 pm)

They just kill the TL with its exterior design!!
If you want an amour car, this is it.
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Re: [toyoman8] by bvdj84
Dec 13, 2008 (2:53 pm)
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Replying to: toyoman8 (Dec 10, 2008 1:19 pm)

Wow! See that would look really good!! If they painted the grill like wing thing black, on a black car would look really hot. I think if they made the shield grill lower in the front, and shrunk its size, it would appeal better, I think they should have played around with the design of that before setting it there.
 
It is similar to the Toyota camry grill, if they lowered the toyota logo down in the grill, and perhaps shrunk the grill a bit, it would look less awkward.
 
You know, it is the small details that make a big difference. But, in the TL case, the grill is a big deal. It can really go good or bad when it comes its looks. Seriously, make the wing on the grill smaller, if you look at the pics you'll see what I mean, it would look really hot! With it painted dark, I am sure it looks awesome.
 
 I really like the futuristic approach on the cars though, I will give them that, I would totally own one in Black with the chrome rims, tinted windows. Perhaps get the grill painted black. Of course professionally, tastefully done.... oh no, there is spray paint on sale at Wal-Mart. lol...hmmm..
 
I prefer the looks of the TSX! I think that car would look good in RED.
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Re: 2009 TL Redesign [ftam] by jeffxp
Dec 13, 2008 (10:03 pm)
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Replying to: ftam (Dec 09, 2008 8:24 pm)

Just wait awhile....It'll grab you...more and more as time goes by....You'll be back to the dealership...
 
The way it rides is beautiful, powerful, luxurious and the sound systems is a couple of steps above the last generation.
 
But then again, that's why we have choices, if you like Infinity this time around that's fine too....enjoy your ride. JXP
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Re: 2009 ACURA TL FWD or SHAWD? VERDICT......... [golfrski] by jeffxp
Dec 13, 2008 (10:56 pm)
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Replying to: golfrski (Nov 23, 2008 5:29 am)

Nice, I agree with your observations. Another aspect to point out is: As soon as you start to initiate a corner the suspension grabs the road feeling even more secure; I don't know how they accomplished this and I wish I had a picture to show you the linkage near the rear tires. There's days I like to slumber home and the new TL coddles you home. Put the gear shifter into sport mode using the paddle shifters and the suspension seems to tighten up ( I wonder if it has to do with the transmission either advancing the vehicle or slowing the car down when you let off the accelerator) when you want to race around, nice.
 
In my '04 TL the sport ride was nice at first, but after awhile I wished the suspension was a little more forgiving and the '09 TL took care of that, perfect blend of sport and luxury.
 
ipod, flash and hard drive integration are easy to use and once you get used to them you wonder how you lived without them.
 
The second day I was coming home from the gym and through my bag in the trunk and couldn't close the door, the trunk wouldn't lock and kept popping back open with an audible alert (I thought oh no is it broken), but finally I realized the key fob was in my gym bag, nice...won't let you lock your keys in the trunk.
Then I was able to program how the doors unlock when I touch the drivers door, nice.
 
I could go on and on with all the new features, okay.... just one more before I go. The computer system wants you to keep your eyes on the road and will tell you the selection you've just made so you don't have to constantly take your eyes off the road to view the NAV screen, nice. Push button start requires one tap, you don't hold down the button, the on board computer makes sure the vehicle starts. I placed a CD in and it automatically download to the hard drive, a function you can modify if you wish, nice.
 
HID lighting has been modified, now the HID lamp operates as low beam only. The beam operates farther, especially to the left and right lighting up corners, much brighter field of view, nice.
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driver by gvk
Dec 30, 2008 (9:34 am)
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Strange, many still keep comparing TL to BMW 3, IS, G35 & A4 e.t.c. Maybe it was ok to do so with the previous TL vs.those four mostly, even though it was not right at all if we wanted to be consistent and compare actually "oranges" to oranges and apples to apples"... and now the new TL is "way" out of such comparability, but they still do it !? Even the previous TL was more comparable to BMW 5 ruther than BMW 3, and now the new TL is just exactly where it should be i.e. in the BMW 5 range.. and they still don't get it, hello !!! Given the way Acura make cars, I think Acura is not actually striving to "exactly match" their cars to any of the competitors, they just have some diffrent philosophy..
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Re: driver [gvk] by habitat1
Dec 31, 2008 (7:08 pm)
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Replying to: gvk (Dec 30, 2008 9:34 am)

The TL comparable to the 5-series? I happen to have a 2004 6-speed TL, but I'd need to eat a lot of mushrooms before I could hallucinate that comparison.
 
The 5 series is the pinnacle of mid size, full luxury sport sedan. The TL is a FWD mear luxury sport sedan that, in spite of it's excess obesity for 2009, doesn't have much more interior space than the new 3 series. They are a lot closer now than when I bought in 2004.
 
I'm obviously not a TL hater or I wouldn't be driving one. But I know the difference between a FWD sporty sedan and a serious sports sedan. In pure driving dynamics, the automatic only, FWD TL for 2009 has more in common with Buick than BMW.
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Re: driver [habitat1] by golfrski
Jan 01, 2009 (5:45 pm)
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Replying to: habitat1 (Dec 31, 2008 7:08 pm)

TL compared to BMW 3 series and 5 series (interior space). The specifications published speak for themselves. Apprears BMW has interestingly enough NOT published some key interior specs.... the rest put the TL in line with the 5 Series not the 3 overall in the front and rear leg, shoulder and hip areas.
 
Interior TL 3 Series 5 Series
 
Front Headroom 38.4 in. 38.5 in. 39.1 in.
Rear Headroom 36.7 in. 37.5 in. 38.1 in.
Front Shoulder Room 58.1 in. 55.4 in. 57.3 in.
Rear Shoulder Room 56.2 in. 55.1 in. 57.2 in.
Front Hip Room 55.7 in. Not Published Not Published
Rear Hip Room 54.8 in. Not Published Not Published
Front Leg Room 42.5 in. 41.5 in. 41.5 in.
Rear Leg Room 36.2 in. 34.6 in. 36 in.
Maximum Luggage Capacity 13.1 cu. ft. 12 cu. ft. 14 cu. ft.
Maximum Seating 5 5 5
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Re: driver [golfrski] by habitat1
Jan 03, 2009 (12:34 pm)
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Replying to: golfrski (Jan 01, 2009 5:45 pm)

I was giving gvk more credit than assuming his comparison was only based upon size. If that's your only metric, I'm sure you can find many more direct comparsons from Kia , Ford and GM.
 
The 2004 TL, with a 6-speed manual, sport suspension and Brembo brake equiped model option, had at least some semblence of comparison to the TYPE of car the BMW 330i was at the time. But now, the bloated TL, with an automatic only transmission and even less sporty suspension and balance, is not in the same category as the BMW 335i. From a size standpoint, compare it to a Lexus ES350, Nissan Maxima or Toyota Avalon if you want, but comparing it to a 5 series for that reason isn't much better than comparing a Prius to a 911.
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Re: driver [habitat1] by golfrski
Jan 03, 2009 (1:54 pm)
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Replying to: habitat1 (Jan 03, 2009 12:34 pm)

I wasn't replying to a post about Kia, Ford or GM but you are probably correct. All I can say is I took my "bloated" 09 TL SHAWD with 18" wheels, sport suspension, Brembo brakes- out the first weekend I had it along with my buddy in his 08 A6 and my cousin in his new 335i (stick)on a nice winding road w/ great 1/2 mile straights and not only smoked em off the line, but left them counting the digits on my license plate as my car stuck to the corners like a beetle on fly paper... Say what you want, its a valid and respected opinion but , I respectfully disagree IMHO.

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