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#1251 of 1532 Re: TL vs. 328i [habitat1] by laurasdada Nov 25, 2008 (2:03 pm)
Gentleman: Agree to disagree, please...   There are many, many reasons to buy a car. Everyone has their own criteria which for them is no less correct than any other persons. It matters not what magazines or other folks consider/define as "sporty" or "luxurious" or "ugly" unless that entity is footing the bill for your ride. Or you truly care that much about what other folks think...   One man's styling is substantial while another's substance is not so defined...   And speaking of styling, as the proud owner of a handsome, sporty, economical '05 TL, I have finally seen my first live '09 TL. Let me just write this about that: ugh. The beak/shield must go IMMEDIATELY. And I agree that the car looks heavy, bulbous and overdone. I am quite superficial and a fool for a pretty face. Therefore, this iteration of the TL shall not be on my list when the time (and the stock market allows... ) comes to upgrade my current beauty. In the words of Nancy Kerrigan, "Acura: Why, why, why, why, why...?" Replies to this message: golfrski (Nov 25, 2008 3:41 pm) sweendogy (Nov 25, 2008 6:08 pm) golfrski (Nov 26, 2008 3:16 am) tlong (Nov 26, 2008 9:15 am) laurasdada (Nov 26, 2008 12:42 pm) bodble2 (Nov 26, 2008 1:43 pm) and 4 more... ftam (Dec 09, 2008 8:24 pm) chucko3 (Dec 11, 2008 7:54 pm) jeffxp (Dec 13, 2008 10:03 pm)
#1252 of 1532 Re: TL vs. 328i [jpdisarro] by habitat1 Nov 25, 2008 (2:16 pm)
Replying to: jpdisarro (Nov 25, 2008 7:22 am) Can you comment on the 328 xi?   No first hand experience with the 328xi. But if I was in the market, I'd test drive one for comparison. I've also heard that the added weight and drive train loss of the "x" system is more noticable in the 328 than the 335, but I doubt it would feel "very" underpowered. And, as a RWD based system, the 328xi is much closer to a 50/50 weight balance than the TL (62/38?) .   Also, your comment that "RWD is not a good option" may mean that a TL with FWD and 18" (or larger) high performance tires won't be much better. My 04 came with the "HPT" W rated summer tires and they were useless in the snow. I've since switched to all seasons. But it still isn't quite as good in the snow as my old Nissan Maxima with 15" 215/60 series tires. There remains a trade-off between all season versitility and dry weather performance. Replies to this message: jpdisarro (Nov 25, 2008 7:15 pm)
#1253 of 1532 Re: TL vs. 328i [laurasdada] by golfrski Nov 25, 2008 (3:41 pm)
Replying to: laurasdada (Nov 25, 2008 2:03 pm) Well when I saw the 1st gen of the TL I hated it, the back end looked like someone ran into it with a steam roller flat flat and more flat. The tail was butted up and the car look small in class.... you too will "most likely" learn to love the new design as you see more and more on the road like anything else... i view this like like my wife wearing bell bottom jeans again with the shoes so pointed I wondered how she fit in them.... now I see women wearing this combo every 60 seconds and its become appealing (not the women, the look)... I will stop those of you that are salivating at that comment... Not trying to compare that to a car, but the point I am making is Acura def went out on a limb to design a controversial car I would agree that in the darker colors (other than silver) the grill is a stand out.. but it is what it is... and people will learn to become accustom to this car..   personally we love it.. its diff looking, stands out and at the end of the day the drive out weighs the look in all aspects... the car is awesome.... and those that say you cant drive aggressively.. thats funny.. i took it out yesterday on very windy roads, punched it (the FWD) and it stuck.. I didnt exp any under steer issues, torque steer issues and it hauls a&^,,,,, great vehicle. Replies to this message: sweendogy (Nov 25, 2008 6:08 pm) golfrski (Nov 26, 2008 3:16 am)
#1256 of 1532 Re: TL vs. 328i vs G35-- G stands for great(R) by sweendogy Nov 25, 2008 (6:08 pm)
Replying to: golfrski (Nov 25, 2008 3:41 pm) i agree its not a bad fwd car.. but performance for the money is not there-(on the AWD)- acura needed a real bump in HP for the AWD model to make it stand out and they did not do that-- i mean a standard accord V6 makes the same straight line performance. The car comes with a 5 speed transmission --which I find, and I drive a 2007 G35x a little outdated for this segment--certainly at a 40K starting price for the awd model.. Its ugly-- overweight (for the HP) and as edmunds (and others) reported its not in the same class of car --they said the VW CC --yep a passat --less HP --less technology is better for the $$.. as past TL's have proven --acura will fix the problem fast 2010 is the year i would invest in another acura (i owned a Integra GS-R, best car i have owned). In the mean while I will enjoy the 07 G35x-- same HP.. better handling-- stronger to 60-- and rear wheel drive bias when I want to get frisky on an exit ramp. -- the 328 also a strong competitor but for the extra HP and current financial market step up to a G. Replies to this message: golfrski (Nov 26, 2008 3:16 am)
#1258 of 1532 Re: TL vs. 328i [habitat1] by jpdisarro Nov 25, 2008 (7:15 pm)
Replying to: habitat1 (Nov 25, 2008 2:16 pm) Yes, a FWD car with high-performance tires is also out of the question. I can only consider FWD or AWD with all-season tires unless I want to imitate a figure skater when driving down the highway all winter long.

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