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Re: 2009 ACURA TL FWD or SHAWD? VERDICT......... [bodble2] by laurasdada
Nov 24, 2008 (12:33 pm)
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Replying to: bodble2 (Nov 24, 2008 11:12 am)

I'm not sure that I agree with needing AWD in CT (I grew up there...). I do, however for the '04-'08 gen TL, believe that you do need snow shoes. I survived two Boston winters with my '05, but when I swappd the OEM Bridgestones for some Toyos, the snow-ability got a bit worse (which I didn't think was possible!) and bought dedicated snows on some snazzy alloys from Tire Rack. All is well now. In fact, will probably mount 'em on the sled next week.
 
Lifelong New Englander and skier. Having AWD would have been beneficial a few times in my driving life, but certainly not a necessity. With FWD and all-season's, I've always gotten to my destination (until the TL). I am not, of course, billyperks2 so what is right for me, may not be right for him.
 
Since, for the first time in my life I've bought and mounted snows, this has emboldened me to consider a RWD car next...
 
Oh, and speaking of the '09 TL, stylewise: In profile it's not bad. My only objection is the pronounced and superfluous front wheel arch. The front end, though, definately needs an exorcism!!
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Re: 2009 ACURA TL FWD or SHAWD? VERDICT......... [bodble2] by billyperks2
Nov 24, 2008 (1:59 pm)
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Replying to: bodble2 (Nov 24, 2008 11:12 am)

To clarify- I need the AWD version, no more FWD with than many horses for me.
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Re: 2009 ACURA TL FWD or SHAWD? VERDICT......... [golfrski] by traumeri
Nov 24, 2008 (5:25 pm)
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Replying to: golfrski (Nov 23, 2008 5:29 am)

I completely agree with you, and would argue that the front reflectors on FWD looks better than the open ducts (on light colors) than the SHAWD...giving the front elements a more cohesive look. Both Edmunds and R&T reported virtually identical 0-60 and 1/4mi #'s for FWD vs AWD, confirming my personal test drive experience.
 
There are some AWD ownders in Acurazine that claim after breaking in they were able to get ~5.6s in the 0-60 but again per Acura the AWD is at best 0.3s faster in the 0-60 and probably due to the torque-limiter clearly stated for the FWD only.
 
To me the biggest detractor for the FWD is the undersized 17" wheels.
golfrski, did you think about changing out the 17" OEM wheels for the 18" or 19"? I'm hoping the dealer has some 18" OEM from ownders opting to upgrade the 19" but not sure how much it would impact the ride.
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TL vs. CC vs. G37 by sweendogy
Nov 24, 2008 (6:14 pm)
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http://blogs.edmunds.com/strategies/2008/11/sport-sedan-shootout-two-wannabes-on- e-winner.html?tid=edmunds.h..topfeatures.sportsedans.0.*
 
Looks do kill--
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Re: TL vs. CC vs. G37 [sweendogy] by bodble2
Nov 24, 2008 (10:14 pm)
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Replying to: sweendogy (Nov 24, 2008 6:14 pm)

I wonder if the handful of people on these boards who tried to say with a straight face that the TL looks good are still sticking to their gun? This is just one big, bloated sedan with very awkward looking front and back end. Whoever buys one is buying inspite of its looks. No one will buy it for its looks, which is a complete 180 from the previous generation.
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TL vs. 328i by habitat1
Nov 25, 2008 (4:27 am)
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I'm not trying to convince anyone else what to buy. But a freind of mine who had an RL coming off lease ended up with a new 2009 328i in spite of the Acura dealer doing everything he could to keep him in the family.
 
And, sorry guys, the notion that one is an "aggressive driver" and finds the FWD, automatic transmission base TL a "sporty" car?? Are you fantasizing? Perhaps you are "aggressive" in attitude, but you certainly don't appear to appreciate the finer points of handling, braking, steering and controlling your own gearshifts. I own a 2004 TL 6-speed with the sport suspension and Brembo brakes and, in spite of those benefits, it is still more than a handful when you goose it too much trying to accelerate while turning. I don't consider myself an "aggessive" driver, but I appreciate "precision" and driving my friends 328i manual was INFINITELY more satisfying than any slushbox, FWD TL.
 
So shop around. It seems that some people are attributing qualities to the TL (at least the FWD, automatic model) that are way beyond reality, at least in the "sportiness" department. If you are buying it for other reasons, fine. But call a spade a spade. And if you really do value driving dynamics, do a "real" test drive of the 328i 6-speed sport. It may have 60 less horsepower on paper, but it will run circles around a base TL and remind you what "fun to drive" means.
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Re: TL vs. 328i [habitat1] by jpdisarro
Nov 25, 2008 (7:22 am)
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Replying to: habitat1 (Nov 25, 2008 4:27 am)

Can you comment on the 328 xi?
 
I live in an area where RWD is not a good option, so I am forced to look for FWD or AWD. From what I have read, the 328xi is very underpowered when saddled with the weight of the AWD system and also loses much of its nimbleness. The 335xi has enough power, but I am not interested in spending $50k on 3 series.
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Re: 2009 ACURA TL FWD or SHAWD? VERDICT......... [traumeri] by golfrski
Nov 25, 2008 (11:00 am)
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Replying to: traumeri (Nov 24, 2008 5:25 pm)

I did look at the 18"s. In fact we put them on and I test drove the shawd base wheels. While they looked sharp 2 things I noticed on my 18 mile test drive:
 
road noise on the 245/45/R18's was measurably increased over the 17"s
ride was stiffer and more bumps felt with the lower sidewall profile
 
the thin spoke design shows a significant amount of rotor.. i dont like the fact that they dont have the RL embossed caliper so its looks a bit stark.. also as I looked around the lot at 2005, 2006's etc what I noticed were rusty rotors and bad looking calipers...
 
I loved the wheels however the ride and noise was much better on the 17"s I was not about to sacrifice quality and comfort in the ride... for looks.. I tend to find it a bit difficult to see my car's wheels while I am driving anyway
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Re: TL vs. CC vs. G37 [bodble2] by golfrski
Nov 25, 2008 (11:03 am)
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Replying to: bodble2 (Nov 24, 2008 10:14 pm)

We love it....... looking at it now from my office window and in silver its cool looking...
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Re: Shift Logic on Highway [eblock2] by golfrski
Nov 25, 2008 (11:09 am)
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Replying to: eblock2 (Nov 20, 2008 1:31 pm)

No noticeable issues... tranny is smooth and powerful in all conditions including S-Shift.. this car is fast

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