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Replying to: jpdisarro (Nov 15, 2008 4:32 pm) Anyway, I test drove the SHAWD today and compared to my FWD test drive a couple of months ago I did not feel any noticeable accel gains at any speed. This is not a deal-breaker but certainly disappointing. Performance-wise this places the TL at the bottom of the pack (A4 2.0T, ES350), but I was hoping the new "advanced" TL should drift toward the middle instead.....
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Replying to: jpdisarro (Nov 16, 2008 8:10 am) RE: Accel #'s. I'm just a bit surprised that the SHAWD had such nominal gains over the FWD (both Insideline and R&T stated such in their new reviews). While the 0-60 was lower by 0.4s comparing the FWD(insideline) to the AWD(R&T), the 1/4mi was only differed by 0.1s. Slalom and lateral accel #'s are marginally better than the FWD with base tires, and essentially the same as the TL-S 6MT. So it's really hard to figure out how much is the AWD vs the 19" summer tires. Essentially, Acura is expecting us to pay $3K+ for minization of torque steer and a more sporty handling feel that translates into small gains on the test track. I'm not sure if this will win over previous BMW/infinti owners, and am not sure if it helps that much to retain previous TL owners. The AWD performance "gain" comes at the price of slightly worse MPG, heavier weight, and smaller trunk space. Now I find myself drifting back to the base TL and having to decide if the performance inferiority to say the Infiniti G37 is worth the slightly better interior package and rear seating space. Although one may argue that G37's Navi is just as good if not better (lane assist, 3D buildings, etc). RE: the TSX V6, I'm not sure how much better the 0-60 might be due to torque-steer limitations in the FWD set-up. Perhaps 1/4mi and 50-70 numbers might be improved.
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Replying to: traumeri (Nov 16, 2008 11:48 am) This is a matter of personal situation, but I would prefer the SH-AWD system for winter driving. RWD is obviously out of the question for me, but I have even had some "entertaining" experiences with FWD during the winter, so AWD would be a huge plus. Additionally, the SH-AWD model comes with 18" wheels and a slightly stiffer suspension. |
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Replying to: traumeri (Nov 16, 2008 11:48 am) The tech toys were satisfying to use if you can find them on the dash.
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Replying to: billyperks2 (Nov 17, 2008 9:40 am) I am not a diehard enthusiast so the TL is still in the running, but it's harder to justify the SHAWD over the TL at this point ($, MPG, weight, cargo space). Ultimately, the TL buyer will still be the previous group that value interior refinement over absolute performance. However, its advantage over the G37/335 there is not great enough to sway AT-driving enthusiasts that I thought was the reason for creating the TL SHAWD. I walked away from my SHAWD and G35 test drives unconvinced that the SHAWD is a compelling competitor for the enthusiast's wallet. |
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Replying to: drmike29 (Nov 15, 2008 9:17 pm) I guess you can't, but wouldn't you be in the same predicament if it had a regular ignitiaon and you lost the key?
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| Has anyone noticed if the navigation screen suffers from the same reflection/glare problem as the one in the new TSX? It seems to have the same basic design --- the actual nav screen is set behind a outer plastic screen, which picks up the reflection from the surrounding dash surfaces. | |
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Replying to: bodble2 (Nov 17, 2008 11:36 pm) Mike
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