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Replying to: habitat1 (Oct 22, 2008 9:56 am)
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My husband and I have been torn between the TL and the Infiniti G35. I think we've settled on the G. The ride and finish of the G are more pleasing to us, but the slightly better fuel economy and increased voice commands are appealing in the TL. We really dislike the 2009 TL exterior design and have found that the front seat head rests are angled uncomfortably too far forward, causing noticeable discomfort after even a short test-driving trip. We've been told that the head rests are only adjustable upward and forward (I think that's what we were told). Wondering if anyone else has been troubled by this and if anyone knows if there's a fix for this annoyance? |
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Replying to: dvsutton (Oct 22, 2008 10:24 pm) (Warning - bodble - you may want to skip this post as I feel compelled to discuss another one of my automotive experiences). Dvsutton - The answer is ever since I quit selling Porsches. I think most car enthusiasts and experts would claim that the 911 is one the most time tested, durable, highest fit and finish sports car in the world. Yet my 3 year old 911S had to go back to the shop at least 5 times before they finally replaced the entire motor system to fix a convertible top that would get stuck in the down position. Next week I'm heading back in for the third time my automatic deploying rear spoiler has failed. And twice last year the car flooded through (supposedly) clogged cowl drains while simply sitting outside on level ground in the rain. The first time, it was a $5,000 reapir bill that I got hit with a $1000 deductable on my insurance policy, the second time Porsche took full responsibility, but only after I went to a their national customer service rep and laid down the law - literally and figuratively. Do you see me posting ad nauseum that "Porsche sucks" or its a "garbage car"? No - about the most I've done is post a single "buyer beware" on the flooding issue. I know of dozens of other Porsche owners that have had one or two problems, but nothing like my misfortune. And, once I get past the hassles I've had, the car still drives like no other car I've ever owned. So I simply put it in perspective. Do yourself a favor. Sell your friggin Odyssey. At least with Honda, the high resale value means that Odyssey is worth about 5 times what any used Ford is worth at 20k miles. And then buy the Ford. But try to understand that your campaign to convince the rest of the world that Acura and Honda are "garbage cars" is a fruitless exercise. I think you have sufficiently "vented". If you really think you'd be better off in a Ford or Chevy, go ahead and put your money where your mouth is. I suspect they are practically giving them away at this point. You may not believe this, but I sincerely wish you the best of luck. It isn't fun having misfortune and you do have my sympathy for that.
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| Let's agree to disagree and drop this. The subject is the 09 TL, we don't have to keep arguing about other cars here. | |
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Replying to: laurasdada (Oct 22, 2008 1:11 pm) I agree with your that Honda's quality is good. I used to have a civic and accord (both brought brand new). For 8 -10 years both had no problem at all. That is why I brought the 2008 TL. One painful issue for the TL is the rattle noise. I noticed that some of the rattle noise is temperature sensitive (e.g. above 70 some locations make rattle noise and below 40 some other locations). The rattle comes and goes. I am always nervous when the car passes some uneven road, making noise (not rattle) from doors and dashboard. Do you have such problem after fixing by dealers. What is your rattle noise and how they fixed it? The dealer here said that the noise is normal since it is a sports car. Your suggestion is highly appreciated. C Since
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Replying to: charles12 (Oct 23, 2008 10:03 am) The first rattle was the sunroof wind deflector. Replaced, no more rattle. The second was the drivers sun visor, replaced no rattle. Unfortunately, each fix took two trips to the dealer before finally resolved. Other than that, no persistent rattles. I think the rattles I do hear are from all the detritus I have in door bins, center bin, glove box! |
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| I noticed a post from a few days ago bashing honda in that their transmissions fail in 30k miles or less. For a while there, that was pretty much my experience . I had transmission failures at 19,000 and 61,000. I had a couple minor problems between that but I am proud to say at 101,000 miles nothing at all has gone wrong in the last 40,000. Although I was not a happy camper when my first transmission blew inside the Lincoln tunnel to manhattan in rush hour on a friday evening, I must say that Acura handled the situation extremely professionally. Luckily they noticed the 2nd transmission failure during an oil change when I observed something off when shifting from 3rd to 4th and had them check it. Anyway my point is that granted Acura had MAJOR transmission problems in cars built in those couple of years, they took full responsibility and made sure not a dime left my pocket and i was inconvenienced as minimally as possible. Both replacements took 7 days in which I was given a loaner car. If i was treated any differently, I would not have been at the acura dealership on September 24th to be one of the first to test drive the 09. Despite everybodys complaints about its size and ugliness, I really enjoyed driving it and have it high on my list when I'm ready to buy in the next month or two. I'll do this with the confidence that if there are any problems down the road with engine, trans or whatever, acura will be man enough to admit it and take appropriate action. These past transmission problems will not affect my decision at all when considering it as my next car. | |
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"... have found that the front seat head rests are angled uncomfortably too far forward, causing noticeable discomfort after even a short test-driving trip." I sat in a '09 TL in the showroom and didn't even go for a test drive, and experienced exactly what you described. I asked the sales person if there's an adjustment that would eliminate this discomfort, and he said there isn't. he said It was designed that way for safety reasons, to reduce the chances or severity of whiplash. Well, safety or no safety, it's a deal breaker for me if the seating position causes neck discomfort. I'm sure it doesn't affect everyone the same way, but I'm glad to know that there are others who experienced the same discomfort. It seems to me that those of us with an anatomy that makes this new TL headrest uncomfortable would probably lean our heads back further if the headrest allowed it, so that our heads would be the same distance from the headrest as in the TL headrest, or our heads would touch the headrest, but at a more comfortable angle, thereby achieving the same whiplash protection. Incidentally, the headrest of my wife's older TL doesn't present this problem.
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Replying to: dvsutton (Oct 22, 2008 6:43 am) |
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Replying to: habitat1 (Oct 23, 2008 5:04 am)  J/K Sorry to hear about your troubles with the 911, I still have it on my wish list anyways, but it won't be for a very long time since my 04' S2000 is gonna be with me for a very long time  It's been a while since I posted and actually the TL is what got me back on the Edmunds boards (I was lurking for a while). Anyways, I am interested in the SH-AWD with a stick (I know you'll appreciate that one) so I'll be lurking here for a while. Cheers!!! Oh and dvsutton is a phoney. Do a quick internet search and you'll find the same rants going back to last year. At one point it was problems with a Corolla, then a Camry. The whole Odyssey thing is made up, seriously. At one point it was Sienna. link title Thankfully, his posts on the N&V board get erased soon after they are posted so he's just wasting a ton of keystrokes for nothing. Hey dv, I like Fords too man so don't take this personally.  Anyways, with regards to the TL, I don't really have any complaints with the styling, outside of the beak. A honda enthusiast site has some great photoshops of what the car would look like with portions of the grill painted to match the car and it becomes much more palatable. Otherwise, I have seen a couple being delivered to the dealerships and in darker colors, the grill looks fine. But I predict an emergency makeover to "tone it down" come MMC. Cheers! |
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